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Do you still back Eddie Howe?  

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6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


There's so little evidence for that though.  If he ever had a CL season with a CL-level squad who weren’t all injured, we could really see. 

22/23 - finished 4th and league cup final

23/24 - finished 7th and played champions league

24/25 - finished 5th won the league cup

25/26 - highest realistic finish 7th? and played champions league

 

I’m just saying that seems to be the trend, get what you’re saying regarding injuries, but again big criticism of Howe has been lack of rotation over the years.

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Imagine just carrying on next season with the same though, with a replacement/ tweak here and there. the owld leadership group in full voice. Opposing teams ' oh here's Newcastle,we know what we have to do'

Like Sunderland 2nd half today. 

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Just now, TBG said:

The admins will ban me if I give my true opinion.

Let it all out - everyone is entitled to their opinion so long as it’s clean 

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3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

They are, but ours left us without any structure last summer. 

 

I think that was Eales who fell out with Stavely, then was too ill himself to pick up the slack. 

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Just now, Holloway said:

Imagine just carrying on next season with the same though, with a replacement/ tweak here and there. the owld leadership group in full voice. Opposing teams ' oh here's Newcastle,we know what we have to do'

Like Sunderland 2nd half today. 

 

Who would you like instead of Howe

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12 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

When we’re asking who’s to blame to we should probably specify who’s to blame for what? No disasters or anything, a poor season in a period of strong progress. Not a disaster and not a crisis. 

 

 

 

Recruitment has been terrible for two years. 

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For the sake of my own sanity I'll probably emotionally disassociate from the club for the next wee while.

 

Channeling my inner (slightly deluded) optimist, I will hold on to hope that in the coming months, the ownership wake from their slumber, Eddie learns about other formations, and PSR goes in the bin. Or something to that effect.

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He really needs to figure out the game management side. Feel like we’ve been absolutely hopeless all season at assessing the dynamic of a full 90 min game and how the momentum swings back and forth. 
 

We concede goals in quickish succession. We don’t seem to be able to hang onto a lead, our decision-making in second halves becomes ragged. Some of that is due to fatigue but there’s also a real softness to the side this season. There have been some outliers, but on the whole, we don’t seem to have a gritty determination / nastiness when playing. 
 

There’s matches this season where it feels like they already look like they’ve lost before they’ve even kicked off. 

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11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I don't think that's true either tbh. The signings summer '25 are questionable as it stands, but until then his hit rate has been excellent.

 

Not sure how much influence he'd have had in previous summers. Ultimately what the fuck do we know anyway about what goes on behind the scenes.

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Just now, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

He really needs to figure out the game management side. Feel like we’ve been absolutely hopeless all season at assessing the dynamic of a full 90 min game and how the momentum swings back and forth. 
 

We concede goals in quickish succession. We don’t seem to be able to hang onto a lead, our decision-making in second halves becomes ragged. Some of that is due to fatigue but there’s also a real softness to the side this season. There have been some outliers, but on the whole, we don’t seem to have a gritty determination / nastiness when playing. 
 

There’s matches this season where it feels like they already look like they’ve lost before they’ve even kicked off. 

Yup. We either need to be good at controlling the ball or space when in the lead as a minimum, ideally it's both. Unfortunately, we've been very poor at both.

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Eddie got one or two things wrong today, but the loss in my opinion is firmly to do with certain players completely losing composure under the pressure. We seem to have lost our shithousing spark, and the energy to see out games.
 

I still 100% support the manager, but there are obvious issues that need addressing in the summer. But he deserves a summer of the club’s full support. He’s comfortably the best manager we’ve had in my supporting lifetime, and you don’t throw away 4 years of progress over an up and down season (which can still end “ok”).

 

But then I’m a massive NUFC fan that doesn’t particularly have that much disdain for Sunderland. I don’t think of them particularly any differently to any other PL team. I hate Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea far more. So the notion of losing to them twice is annoying, not good enough, but certainly not the be-all-and-end-all of whether a manager is the right man or not.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Decky said:

 

Not sure how much influence he'd have had in previous summers. Ultimately what the fuck do we know anyway about what goes on behind the scenes.

It’s been reported multiple times that he was massively responsible for our first two transfer windows (ie the one where most of the best signings came in).

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Had a kip, Stand by it utter embarrassing  fanbase judging by people on here, If the ownership (who are to blame) fold under pressure i'll enjoy our downfall caused yet again (Keegan, Sir Bobby) by our fans

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Biggest mitigating factor is two games a week every single week since November. Longest gap has been Tues (Carabao semi)-Sun.

Kind of ironic that we now get three weeks off.

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1 minute ago, Stottie said:

Biggest mitigating factor is two games a week every single week since November. Longest gap has been Tues (Carabao semi)-Sun.

Kind of ironic that we now get three weeks off.

It is certainly a factor, but we where poor, maybe even worse before the two games a week started. 

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