TRC Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Dava1892 said: Glad to poll for Eddie how still has the backing of he’s still the man. The bed wetters have increased by around 30 after today 😂 The bed wetters comments are so odd. We are 12th and have lost to our local rivals who are newly promoted twice this season. The second time the were missing 4 of their back 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 48 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: The Cup win was over a year ago. We qualified for the CL 10 months ago. They have absolutely nothing to do with the here and now which has been pathetic. You mention the Champions League. Our last game in that was a 7-2 thrashing. Since those things happened he's squandered £200m on utter shite and our team looks a total shadow of the team that won the League Cup and finished 5th. You can't live in the past because you'll ultimately go backwards. Who do you suggest as the replacement someone's who's success was a year ago? Who is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I can't get my head around this like. How did they back him in the summer? That's not what happened at all and it's becoming mental the way in which what actually happened is ignored even after it's brought up. lol what? 1. Paid £70m for one of the top striking talents in Europe so much so Bayern Munich lost their minds. 2. Paid £50m for one of the best PL attackers last season. 3. Paid £55m for Howe’s choice on the wing. 4. Paid £40m for a new CB. 5. Brought Howe’s mate from Bournemouth (Ramsdale). 6. Appointed Howe’s nephew on the leadership team for transfers In what world is paying over £200m in the summer not backing the manager? Have we become City and Chelsea fans and lost our minds? Edited March 22 by Jesse Pinkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Fergie ,wenger ,jose to name just a few had bad seasons with far better resources , As things stand i'm 99% certain no one would of done better with the squads he has had with Bournemouth and us.! Nonone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I’d be extremely worried if he went like. An unknown manager with our players is much more worrying than Eddie with another summer to strengthen. Tend to agree, but its also a worry how we look completely lost to learn. Like, its shocking how we do the same mistakes month after month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gawalls said: We're spending what we're allowed to spend, something that hasn't happened for decades, sure we could have better sponsors etc but they've chucked every penny at him they're allowed to. I'll just have to say it again. Our CEO got cancer and they took over a year to replace him Our DoF walked out on the eve of the transfer window - no contingency plan and no replacement until 6 months later. In the meantime Howe had to step up and take on that role and be our manager. Literally all the support there was in that situation was the money being available. Edited March 22 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 The dilemma I have is: How many managers could achieve what Howe has with the money and support - probably quite a few. How many managers could push us on the be regular top 4 with a finance rules we have - probably not many, if any. Howe isn’t going to win us the league or push us to the next level. We know that now. But can any manager with the income we have, almost certainly not. However, today particularly after conceding 7 midweek is unacceptable. He’s a nice guy and you can tell he cares - but that doesn’t mean we should accept mid table finishes, losing both derbies and gutless performances. The same old issues are being seen week after week to argue that Howe isn’t part of the problem this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just goes to show how much we miss Bruno, nobody drives the team on like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 You either let him go in the summer or commit to giving him the whole of the next season. Can’t let him loose with the summer transfer kitty if there’s a strong chance you’re going to sack him six weeks into the season and replace him with someone who doesn’t want the players he’s got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Could be worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I think he needs the 3 week break as much as anyone. And then a summer to reset. Possibly his style of football doesn't work any more against the way the PL has changed to low block teams and set pieces, when everyone is pressing as well and our style doesn't work as well. We got beaten tonight and everyone could see it coming from the 15th minute and then again when they equalised. We don't have a Ben Arfa to open up the game and make it fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: This is obviously true to some extent but a tricky argument to hang your hat on given how different this thread would be if we’d won. People were just talking about us being in the run in for champions League spots less than 24 hours ago Now it's a disaster season where the manager needs to lose his job. Everyone keeps mentioning the money spent and we should have improved? We lost a top 5 in the world striker and his replacements knee exploded before he even kicked a ball for us. We've essentially played a season without a proper striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Jesse Pinkman said: lol what? 1. Paid £70m for one of the top striking talents in Europe so much so Bayern Munich lost their minds. 2. Paid £50m for one of the best PL attackers last season. 3. Paid £55m for Howe’s choice on the wing. 4. Paid £40m for a new CB. In what world is paying over £200m in the summer not backing the manager? Have we become City and Chelsea fans and lost our minds? Completely unsurprising that yet another person has completely memory holed what happened in the summer. 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: I'll just have to say it again. Our CEO got cancer and they took over a year to replace him while he spent loads of time on sick leave. Our DoF walked out on the eve of the transfer window - no contingency plan and no replacement until 6 months later. I'm the meantime Howe had to step up and take that role and be our manager. Literally all the support there was in that situation was the money being available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Jesse Pinkman said: lol what? 1. Paid £70m for one of the top striking talents in Europe so much so Bayern Munich lost their minds. 2. Paid £50m for one of the best PL attackers last season. 3. Paid £55m for Howe’s choice on the wing. 4. Paid £40m for a new CB. In what world is paying over £200m in the summer not backing the manager? Have we become City and Chelsea fans and lost our minds? Lost arguably the best striker in Europe. And all of our main striker targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I like the man, but seriously, has our play improved in 1-2 years? Seems like no. We cannot keep possession, we are all about physicality and intensity, but when we face it we cannot cope. I think Eddie's race is over in the summer. At the same time squad will be under a big shuffle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, TRC said: The bed wetters comments are so odd. We are 12th and have lost to our local rivals who are newly promoted twice this season. The second time the were missing 4 of their back 5. Bed wetter comments are from those still living in Ashley/Bruce era. Enough time has passed now for that not to be the benchmark or what we measure success against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, astraguy said: Gone far in all of the cups with a bare minimum squad, how much have pepo, Slot, Arteta,Chelsea spent? and how many flops have they had? we've had errrrrrrrrm one so far in wissa (atm in time) Bare minimum squad, have you seen the investment and money blown compared to teams around us right now. He could have shaped it all different and didn't. He genuinely thought it's ok still having Murphy, Trippier, Pope, Burn and that attack would work. We are fucking terrible to watch, no cohesion at all in our play and just overly relies on being fast and breaking through while being shit at it most the time. Also doesn't know when to sit and soak up pressure or to keep it fucking simple. I loved the style of play he brought in and now none of it is there, we are pretty shit at pressing, suicidal man marking that barely works, no calm build up play other than side to side, set pieces worse than ever. The list goes on and im honestly not sure he knows how to sort it. Yes been different in Champs league, hardly convincing in fa cup or league cup. Needs a refresh with good scouting, evolving the play and tactics and not just spunking a load of money on someone to just be fast or athletic. Actual technical players as that would help Tonali/Ramsey/Hall most. Must be so frustrating for them playing balls to our 3 in front that run it out of play, can't pass a ball or no skill to do things differently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, astraguy said: Fergie ,wenger ,jose to name just a few had bad seasons with far better resources , As things stand i'm 99% certain no one would of done better with the squads he has had with Bournemouth and us.! Nonone People wanted Glasner a month or two ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Kid Icarus said: I'll just have to say it again. Our CEO got cancer and they took over a year to replace him Our DoF walked out on the eve of the transfer window - no contingency plan and no replacement until 6 months later. I'm the meantime Howe had to step up and take that role and be our manager. Literally all the support there was in that situation was the money being available. Its worse than that tbf, they knew Mitchell was going a few weeks before the season ended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Could be worse Honestly think PIF would hire someone like this if Eddie went Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Not read this thread for a few days, but it does fell like we have reached a junction. We either sack Howe (which most around me in stadium wanted) or we stick with him and allow him to trade. I'm 50/50 in my pissed state on the metro! Last summers transfer dealings were a fucking disaster. £180m on Elanga Wissa and Woltemade have crucified us. If he stays on he needs to be brutal and sell Burn, Trippier, Willock, Woltemade, Murphy, Tino (he's already gone), Pope, etc. He cannot stay and retiain most of those players. Today was a monumental moment in his management as for the first time the band turned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: In what way have they backed him to the hilt? Getting rid of Staveley and Goudoussi. Taking over a year to replace our CEO who was on sick leave for a lot of it, 6 months to replace our DoF while he was hung out to dry in the summer. They're glacial, it's how they are. Staveley left because we didn't manage PSR well and ended up getting shafted by Forest on the back of it with the Elliot/keeper deal. The CEO (Eales) was a poor appointment and he brought in a poor successor. That's on the board not the owners though, the owners are an international investment firm, they aren't going to be making these decisions. The board is, and I presume that's why a lot of them have been quietly moved on, because they dropped the ball with appointing a CEO. Howe was backed over Mitchell in the summer, he was then given the opportunity to bring in his choice of players in the summer and they have mostly failed. Maybe he shouldn't have been put in that position, but he was backed nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Maggies said: The dilemma I have is: How many managers could achieve what Howe has with the money and support - probably quite a few. How many managers could push us on the be regular top 4 with a finance rules we have - probably not many, if any. Howe isn’t going to win us the league or push us to the next level. We know that now. But can any manager with the income we have, almost certainly not. However, today particularly after conceding 7 midweek is unacceptable. He’s a nice guy and you can tell he cares - but that doesn’t mean we should accept mid table finishes, losing both derbies and gutless performances. The same old issues are being seen week after week to argue that Howe isn’t part of the problem this season. Love this apart from winning the leegue! Any team in the top 6 would take Eddie 100%! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: The manager should only be a part of the transfer picture anyway, if it’s functioning properly. Ours hasn't and isn't though is it ? Eddie's also been political when in a position of strength in regards to how things are down here. I mean his own Nephew is involved in first team recruitment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, dcmk said: Lost arguably the best striker in Europe. And all of our main striker targets. So because we sold a player and didn’t get first choice in a few positions Howe wasn’t backed? That happens at every club… The Club spent nearly £250m in the summer on the squad… How much should they have spent £500m? Edited March 22 by Jesse Pinkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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