Superior Acuña Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 It’s possible to want Howe out and be respectful to the man. He’s demonstrably not incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 What's he going to do different next season, how even with new players will he evolve the team, what happens if we have too many games again, why is he allergic to making timely subs or changing it when see danger, why does he and tindall constantly look perplexed on the sideline, when will he question his own tactics and formation as they just don't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Up to this point in their careers, Howe has proven to be better than them all. I think it's hard to call now. Not easy to find a coach who can serve up better than the slop I just watched and have been watching most of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Something stinks at the club. Players wanting away. Daft Canadian doing nowt but bullshitting. Very little investment into infrastructure. Horrific scouting. It’s gone badly wrong this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, 1892er said: Genuine question to the 100% Behind Eddie fans. What would it take for you to think he might be the issue? I'm just genuinely curious because after 33 games we've seen nothing but regression? I admire the loyalty to him but we're seeing the £150m players he bought sit on the bench and the same carbon copy performances. For me it would be this type of season continue into next season, that's what it would take for me to turn and say his time is up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Vinegar Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I still want him to stay but I'm beginning to worry it's wishful thinking from me. If he stays the summer and starts next season like this then he'll get sacked imo. So we should keep him only if we have real confidence he can turn it around. He has turned around from poor seasons and done well. But if we do sack him mid season, we'll have a worse set of choices. And we'll be bringing in someone new to use a squad Howe built. It's a big risk whatever we do at this point. Dispassionately, if there's a standout choice available in the summer and Eddie has shown little in the remainder of this season, I think it would be sensible to replace him. At the end of the day I do think he's a good manager, and I respect him and think he has earned another chance. But I can understand those who think another chance requires some signs of change first. It's all pretty miserable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode23 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, 1892er said: Genuine question to the 100% Behind Eddie fans. What would it take for you to think he might be the issue? I'm just genuinely curious because after 33 games we've seen nothing but regression? I admire the loyalty to him but we're seeing the £150m players he bought sit on the bench and the same carbon copy performances. When reality becomes unbearable, some choose to live in an alternate one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, dcmk said: Two seasons ago it was the same.. And the same users whinging. Who can't handle the ups and downs of supporting a football team. Progress isn't always linear. Football is up and down yes, fans always support the club but that doesn’t mean they can’t say what they’re seeing with their own eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Milburn said: There are definitely good coaches out there, no doubt. The issue is the timing. A lot of clubs will most likely be in the market this summer, so competition for those names will be intense. It’s not just about identifying better coaches, it’s about actually landing one ahead of everyone else I’m afraid. I get that, which is why I didn't include Alonso because he's nailed on for Liverpool. You're right, which is why I hope they're already putting the feelers out. Citeh, Man U and Chelsea will probably all be looking for managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, r0cafella said: I think it's hard to call now. Not easy to find a coach who can serve up better than the slop I just watched and have been watching most of the season. Im not saying Iarola wouldn’t improve us, just don’t think currently you can say he definitely better because they are above us. Fwiw if Howe goes, I’d pick Iraola to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Well Iraola has spent far less and is above him so it depends on what you're classing as "better" here. True but in this one example, it's irrelevent. Iraiola is a minger so his achievements are meaningless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Why do the howe backers have no faith in the club bringing in a great manager should howe leave? They've only had to recruit one time for a manager and it was between emery and howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: It’s possible to want Howe out and be respectful to the man. He’s demonstrably not incompetent. That's why his management of games like today is so baffling, it demonstrably was incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTONEW Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I do struggle at times with being within one of the most entitled and myopic fanbases going like aye. What a load of shite. Most entitled? Maybe sit this one out, for once. Because every page is you...going on like a Russian bot. Insulting the fans over and over. Like you're above everyone. You couldn't wait to come straight in here to piss on everyone for having completely normal feelings. Fans responding emotionally to a game built around the very emotions of fans. Fans who have no influence on the money machine, and only have the 90 mins as entertainment. 13 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Again you're a plastic, whatever your opinion is it's irrelevant. You're a stain on football. This is fucking rancid. Treating people like shit, to solely protect your opinion, makes you the lowest of low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 KI having a very public meltdown on Google Maps checking out postcodes to see who is allowed to have an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 As obvious a sign that the manager will likely be gone in the summer, that performance. Players look like they've lost any incentive to play for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Im not saying Iarola wouldn’t improve us, just don’t think currently you can say he definitely better because they are above us. Fwiw if Howe goes, I’d pick Iraola to replace him. Aye he'd be a name on my list. It's going to be tough if Eddie goes. The constraints we have mean we need a managerial unicorn. We thought we had one but yikes he's been poor this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, SAK said: Football is up and down yes, fans always support the club but that doesn’t mean they can’t say what they’re seeing with their own eyes. Teams struggle sometimes. Some fans would kick out even Pep and Ancelotti if they took over and had two back to back home draws. It's beyond fickle to blame the manager for all of our problems. Scapegoating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBartoon Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 220m worth of summer signings on the bench 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: It’s possible to want Howe out and be respectful to the man. He’s demonstrably not incompetent. Well said. The disrespect of Howe is incredible considering what he’s done for this football club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Im not saying Iarola wouldn’t improve us, just don’t think currently you can say he definitely better because they are above us. Fwiw if Howe goes, I’d pick Iraola to replace him. If he can't fix his own teeth, what makes you think he can fix NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Yes and there are far more and bigger reasons for that than just Eddie Howe. There are lots of reasons but Howe is also one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, dcmk said: Teams struggle sometimes. Some fans would kick out even Pep and Ancelotti if they took over and had two back to back home draws. It's beyond fickle to blame the manager for all of our problems. Scapegoating. Even the best go stale from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Up to this point in their careers, Howe has proven to be better than them all. In what way exactly? Iraola is above him, Maresca, Xavi and Pochetino have won more trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) The context of today’s defeat (Derby disaster to make amends for, plenty of time on the grass, tired AND weakened Palace team etc) means it’s an awful result for him, made worse by the ‘performance’. If we’re honest, we barely deserved our 1. Genuine question, are those players still playing for him? Last two games suggest not to me. Gut feel is that he’ll walk. Which, imho, he’s earned given his achievements here. He’s a really dignified bloke who’s majorly struggled this season, for reasons discussed thousands of times in this thread and others, but this really does feel like the wheels are coming off…. I fear the Derby game was where he ‘lost’ many match going supporters and I’m not sure he can win them back over any sustainable period now the doubts have set in for so many fans. I hope he does if he stays. Edited April 12 by Minhosa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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