TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 5 minutes ago, magorific said: No. But I’m certain he’d heard of Kieran Trippier, who clearly believed in Howe. Definitely - I don’t think Trippier comes here without Howe’s presence. And for clarity, I think that today, there will be far more players who have heard of Howe, and would want to play him. I just don’t agree that Bruno, Isak or Botman sign in 2022 because Howe was gaffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: Also, there are those of us who are in the middle who don’t really know what the club should do because of all he has done here. Both represent gambles. I always try to choose my words very carefully when it comes to him, a) because of his achievements, but mainly because of his conduct here, and how he goes about his craft. The prem is full of acting clowns, but you couldn’t get more authenticity than Eddie Howe. Some of the players need a long look in the mirror also, they should be getting just as much criticism. They are tbf. Take a look at the Wissa, Ramsdale, Pope, Gordon, Botman, Murphy or Elanga thread. This is tame (as it should be imo) compared to them. Fact is that if a team isn't winning the buck stops with the manager. It's always been the case and I suspect it always will be. He brings the players in, he coaches them, motivates them, sends them out with his tactical instructions etc. Howe certainly took more plaudits than any individual player when we were qualifying for the CL and winning the League Cup so you could argue it should work both ways anyway. Edited April 21 by Wallsendmag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: You'd hope there was another manager out there atm that would come to us that could do as well or better than Howe given the resources and situation at the club, absolutely. Not many, though. And do performances this season have you looking as a fan of a football club thinking "this isnt good enough"? Definitely. What's important to remember imo is that we have a manager that has in a few years got us over performing on a consistent basis, which is what we need given our position. Turned around bad periods with changes in tactics, which is what we need. Made lesser players better, which is what we need. Made some good decisions in the transfer market, which is what we need. With more support and long term thinking. Held things together at a higher level than his remit demands, unfortunately, what we need. Perfection is a consistent pursuit, never a given. Last summer was horrible. So were the couple previous. Howe was the only one standing there. If he has that much power over PIF and they've caved to his demands then that's mental from them. But it hasn't happened, he's filled holes they've not filled. We don't look like scoring, you know we're going to give away easy goals, players you'd expect to be contributing more aren't, players you'd hope were going to be better, haven't been. If this is longer term, then absolutely yes. But to bin managers after brief poor spells is what unsuccessful clubs that spend way more than we have do. Undoubtedly, we don’t want to fall into the trap of a Spurs and end up in a dangerous cycle of huge pay offs to overrated managers. He’s had poor spells but none of this magnitude, if he turns it around I’ll tip my hat to him. I can’t see it but if they stick with him then clearly I hope you’re right, as nobody wants to see us in crisis in September scrapping around for a replacement. The club had 2 defining moments in my lifetime where success could have been built; Dalglish and Souness, this is very similar and they need to get it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Whitley mag said: Undoubtedly, we don’t want to fall into the trap of a Spurs and end up in a dangerous cycle of huge pay offs to overrated managers. He’s had poor spells but none of this magnitude, if he turns it around I’ll tip my hat to him. I can’t see it but if they stick with him then clearly I hope you’re right, as nobody wants to see us in crisis in September scrapping around for a replacement. The club had 2 defining moments in my lifetime where success could have been built; Dalglish and Souness, this is very similar and they need to get it right. If Sir Bobby had come in straight after Keegan we would undoubtedly have been onto something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said: If Sir Bobby had come in straight after Keegan we would undoubtedly have been onto something. That was the moment, Bobby in charge of that Keegan team could have been special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Whitley mag said: That was the moment, Bobby in charge of that Keegan team could have been special. We would have won a league title. I'm almost certain of it. I'll admit I was happy enough with Dalglish at the time but he was a disaster when you look at what he took over and then what he left us with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: They’re based on last season’s books - the last one published. When this years’ are published we’ll be above them. Villa’s two expensive loanees left, and we signed six players after losing Isak from the wage bill (and Lloyd Kelly too of course). Our new signings for the season will have added at least £20m to the wage bill (allowing for Isak dropping off). Capology’s figures are current (they include Wissa, Woltemade, Elanga etc). They have Villa paying out £250k more per week than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, magorific said: Capology’s figures are current (they include Wissa, Woltemade, Elanga etc). They have Villa paying out £250k more per week than us. Fair dos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: Give over man, Staveley gave him everything he wanted, hence why they got bombed out and we had 3 windows of no activity. Aye, you can’t spend something to the tune of 700 million and say you’ve had no backing. Edited April 21 by Stuy_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 15 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: That was the moment, Bobby in charge of that Keegan team could have been special. 12 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: We would have won a league title. I'm almost certain of it. I'll admit I was happy enough with Dalglish at the time but he was a disaster when you look at what he took over and then what he left us with. I was one of those who was a bit worried when Dalglish came in, even with his trophy record as a manager - I thought he’d allowed that great Liverpool side to age out (Souness usually gets all the blame, but Dalglish should’ve replaced some of them years earlier) and his Blackburn side were not enjoyable to watch despite being the most expensive side in the country by a fair margin, and then he actually seemed to improve us in 96/97 (it was only having our three forwards out injured which cost us a late title push IMHO). Robson being appointed in Jan 1997 wins us the title that season, I’m sure of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, magorific said: Capology’s figures are current (they include Wissa, Woltemade, Elanga etc). They have Villa paying out £250k more per week than us. Capology is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 With the remaining fixtures. Crystal Palace (a) Bournemouth (h) Arsenal (a) Brighton (h) Nottingham forest (a) Westham United (h) Fulham (a) How many can you see us getting? I've got 4 points at most with a win against forest and a draw at palace. Gonna have to revise my points prediction. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 27 minutes ago, andycap said: With the remaining fixtures. Crystal Palace (a) Bournemouth (h) Arsenal (a) Brighton (h) Nottingham forest (a) Westham United (h) Fulham (a) How many can you see us getting? I've got 4 points at most with a win against forest and a draw at palace. Gonna have to revise my points prediction. 😂 We took three points from those last five fixtures last season - so more than that would be an improvement at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thomas Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I wasn't 100% howe out before that poem but now I am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, BlueStar said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Got one of those full body shivers of disgust reading that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Big fan of "silverware" / "seventy year". Ashington pit lad poet I reckon. 100% rhyme in that accent and the missing S on the end of years is also textbook Northumberland pitmatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Next year it’ll be 100 years since NUFC last won the title good omens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 6 hours ago, JT24 said: Capology is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, BlueStar said: That's making it tough to remain 100% Eddie In Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 latest one from Geordie journo's indicating Eddie has the backing behind the scenes and will be here next season. Bit shocked at most of the comments tbh, high percentage are in disagreement with quotes like 'if that's true it's a disgrace' etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I can see Howe at Chelsea next season and doing well with a bigger better squad and cash to burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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