Mikky Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Please give me an example of where NUFC have replaced a successful manager with some better. Give me an example of when we have had investment of this scale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, stabmasterareson said: How does a one goal loss away to a team neck in neck for the title change anyone's opinion? How could this be the straw that broke the camels back? And if so, did any of your posts show you thinking we'd win today? Arsenal were buckling under pressure and scored from their third consecutive short corner, which we totally failed to respond to tactically. We created next to nothing, potentially could have had a red for Pope, and there’s no doubt that they let us have the ball as a tactical ploy because they recognised we were next to no threat in that scenario. It’s not the straw that broke the camel’s back, but it’s further evidence that either the manager is done or this group of players is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, The Prophet said: I'm not sure what your point is here? I was someone who thought reverting to one game a week would see an improvement, as previous evidence suggests that it usually does. It's shite that it hasn't and its concerning we're seeing so many parallels with his final season at Bournemouth. Two camps will emerge here, one will think Eddie should lead the rebuild, the other will think it's time to part company and give someone else a crack. I'm probably still in the former and I'm happy to debate why, but at this point I wouldn't begrudge anyone for leaning the other way. I’m at the point where I’m more inclined to let him go at the end of the season. However, at the same time, I really don’t see us getting in a top quality replacement. Not sure that should be enough to keep him in his job though. Certainly don’t envy Wilson this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Arsenal were poor today. A Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford or Everton would have beat them today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Aye that goal where they still whinge about the ball going out at the Gallowgate End. We beat them that day didn't we? Yes. And last season at home. And Howe’s first season at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Mikky said: Give me an example of when we have had investment of this scale Massive investment under Keegan and Robson. How did those replacements go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Menace said: In what world were we the better team today? Well.. the majority of the stats for a start. Do you watch our games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, UncleBingo said: Please give me an example of where NUFC have replaced a successful manager with some better. NUFC, under the current owners, have made one management appointment and got it spot on. Or do you think that management appointments at NUFC are preordained by some form of mythical force that can transcend the decision making powers of whoever owns the club at that time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 His main strengths as a manager are motivational, whereby in the early part of his tenure he is able to get players to run through walls for him, and it's easy to see why players never really "stop playing" for him as it's easy for them to keep having much respect for him as a human being, even if they no longer really believe in what he is preaching. However, tactically and in terms of in-game management and player selection he's limited, and those limitations start to show when the motivational stuff reaches the limit of how far it can take a team. His comments about players not getting selected because of how they train again shows how stunted his managerial skills are. Loads of the world's top players historically have been poor trainers so we can safely say they would never have got game time under Howe. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think Isak's 3 month purple patch last season massively papered over his cracks as a manager and the following good feeling momentum after the cup win carried us forward to stumble over the finish line for CL qualification. But we've actually been a poor team to watch for nearly two full seasons now. Now we are at the point where Howe is burnt out as a manager, and he's not got what it takes in the tank to move us on to being a club that regularly finishes top six. Giving him another summer would be a critical mistake and could really hobble us for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Rich said: Arsenal were buckling under pressure and scored from their third consecutive short corner, which we totally failed to respond to tactically. We created next to nothing, potentially could have had a red for Pope, and there’s no doubt that they let us have the ball as a tactical ploy because they recognised we were next to no threat in that scenario. It’s not the straw that broke the camel’s back, but it’s further evidence that either the manager is done or this group of players is. Exactly how I saw it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Tbg getting a lot of catches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Toonjam88 said: Arsenal were poor today. A Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford or Everton would have beat them today I'd have took a draw all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, dcmk said: Well.. the majority of the stats for a start. Do you watch our games? You really are a condescending little cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: I’m Howe out, but how can that be the game to push people over the edge. By-and-large we played ok against the league leaders away from home. It took an excellent strike to separate the teams. It was a 'free hit' today. No one expected a win. However, we can still look at his management and go "nahhh, not for me". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 If we’re getting rejected by every top prospect on the player end, it’s going to be the same on the manager end, too. We’re lucky to have Eddie, have to let him sort it out. He will, he always does. No other person I’d rather have to fix it than Eddie. He got Bournemouth from League Two to the Premier League. He won Newcastle United their first trophy in 50+ years, and it’s not like that was a fluke, we were in the final two years prior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: What’s your age got to do with anything? Other than making you look condescending for calling a bloke who’s almost 50 “kidda”. Sometimes the grass is greener. That’s a fact. If you're that age, then you should know your history then. When has it worked out previously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Menace said: You really are a condescending little cunt That's the rebuttal I expected. No facts or insight. Nice one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: NUFC, under the current owners, have made one management appointment and got it spot on. Or do you think that management appointments at NUFC are preordained by some form of mythical force that can transcend the decision making powers of whoever owns the club at that time ? Aye, and their first choice Emery has also been vindicated. (Though not sure how much it would be same people making the decisions like) Edited April 25 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Jesse Pinkman said: Would you take Ange at Newcastle? Absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtua Stiva Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The stats for each team are fucking shit because it was two shit teams playing out a shit game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I’m at the point where I’m more inclined to let him go at the end of the season. However, at the same time, I really don’t see us getting in a top quality replacement. Not sure that should be enough to keep him in his job though. Certainly don’t envy Wilson this summer. If the fear of who we replace him with is greater than the fear of letting him go, that’s not the reason to keep him. It’s all a bit pants atm! Curry was delicious (red pepper and lentil) 😋 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Toonjam88 said: Arsenal were poor today. A Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford or Everton would have beat them today Ahh yes a team who has been top all season would have definitely lost at home to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Don't think that result tonight changes much at all or tells us anything we didn't already know 24 hours ago. The season is petering out and has been a disaster overall imo, we're looking at a horrific league finish, we've lost a shitload of games, can't keep a clean sheet and struggle to score. There are massive issues with the squad and the formation and the signings and I'm not even sure he's going to be given the chance to correct it - that's completely ignoring the fact he looks like shit and could easily walk away from this mess despite him saying contrary. No idea why tonight has made or broken anything, everyone saw it coming and that's the worrying part - zero expectations tonight and it panned out like many said it would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Virtua Stiva said: The stats for each team are fucking shit because it was two shit teams playing out a shit game I mean they are top now They are the best in the land right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, dcmk said: I mean they are top now They are the best in the land right now Shows how bad the quality of the league has been as well tbf. I’ve hated this season in general, not just from a Newcastle perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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