Eddie Howe

[La Parka]

Agree. 

 

Hopefully we do have a change on that front as our u15s are smashing everyone 😂 

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

4 minutes ago, 1881 said:

If you need to compare seasons, then you have to compare everything otherwise it is meaningless 

 

I don’t remember Bruce getting us to the semi-finals of the League Cup.

 

I don’t remember Bruce getting us to the knockout stages  of the Champions League.

 

i don’t remember Bruce having to manage such a huge number of games either.

But then he had a fraction of the budget as Howe and he did get quarters of the FA Cup. Did Bruce have elite/world class strikers and midfielders? 
 

Look I am obviously not saying Bruce is a better manager. He’s not. Just the dross served up this season in the league equals the levels we seen under Bruce. 

[Mills and Boon]

5 minutes ago, Ilovetoon8788 said:

the reason is precisely why i'm against howe. it's all about physicality and athletes and that is eddie's huge limitation.

 

burn has been awful at left back and opponents always attack his side. the amount of goals conceded with him at left back is alot. and he has been skinned by wingers in so many games. 

and yet Howe plays burn just for the 'physicality' he offered. and burn was utter crap as usual.

 

Burn was fine yesterday 

[TK-421]

6 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

Bournemouth and Villa are not good teams? 

 

Bournemouth was on Penalties (after another 'uncharacteristic' late goal for them made it 3-3), and Villa were arguably on top till their keeper had a brainfart.

 

 

Edited April 26 by TK-421

[Mills and Boon]

4 minutes ago, Ilovetoon8788 said:

this is the other issue with Howe. he wants all the compteition but he plays the same players he trusts game after game. youths have zero chance under him. 

it will always take a massive injury crisis for him to play any of the young lads.

 

Hall, Miley, Livramento, Osula and Anderson all young players who got game time under Howe. Minteh would have too if not for PSR shenanigans 

[Mr Misery]

6 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

Burn was fine yesterday 

He was OK defensively and no doubt leadership wise.

He didn't offer much offensively compared to Hall.

I would have liked to see Hall for the second half - we were one nil down...

 

 

Edited April 26 by Mr Misery

[Holmesy]

Just watching the Chelsea/Leeds game. Leeds 1-0 down at half time, Farke has made changes and altered the shape at half time, and now they’re on top.
This is the kind of management people are talking about with regards to a plan b. Positive in-game management in response to things that aren’t working. 
 

What I wouldn’t give!

[La Parka]

Also have a clear strategy going forward, wide quickly, early crosses and first to the second ball. 

[Gawalls]

8 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

Burn was fine yesterday 

He's not wrong - he's been awful at left back

[Deuce]

 

[Mills and Boon]

2 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

He's not wrong - he's been awful at left back

 

He's wrong about yesterday 

[rgk_lfc]

There have been plenty of managers over the last 25 years who have impressed in various shapes and forms. But only a select few have proven to have the ability to cross that final divide - win the PL, compete in the CL as they belong, win a cup playing excellent, outstanding football, leaving no doubt that their team deserved the trophy. Eddie Howe is one of them. Be very, very careful if you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Iraola, Glasner - all look impressive on paper, but they have not been tested in the final hurdle. 

 

I have been on record here as being an Eddie Howe fan. I believe I praised his achievements on here before he was linked to your job. In 2016, when it was time to replace Rodgers, Michael Edwards had a three-person shortlist - Ancelotti, Klopp, and Howe. Klopp won out due to his experience. When it was time to replace Klopp, Edwards again had three people - Alonso, Slot, and Howe. Howe declined to even consider the position. I am betting next time the LFC job opens up, which may be as early as May, Howe will be on Edwards' shortlist. 

 

Has he made mistakes with signings? I don't know the full details, and you all know more than I do, but it looks like he has. Maybe he does not have the best acumen for players. And based on what you all are saying, he is responsible for your club not performing to expectations this season. Having said that, Howe has that unique ability that top managers like Klopp and Guardiola have: at its peak, when everything is purring, the football is irresistible, untouchable; average players suddenly look five times better. You did not win the cup or compete in the CL by playing plucky underdog football. Your team stepped onto the pitch and competed as if they deserved to be there. Managers who can instill that come along once every decade. 

 

So why risk it? Wouldn't it be better to hire a strong CEO who can handle Howe's and a DOF's clashes and create a path forward, constantly reminding both of them that they need each other to succeed? 

 

If you end up relieving Howe of the manager's job this summer, he is not going to take over a lower-league club. There is a very good chance that he ends up at a club like Liverpool with someone like Michael Edwards pulling the strings from the background. 

 

[Mills and Boon]

Good post that, rgk.

 

Nice little palette cleanser from reading people gushing over Steve Bruce and Daniel Farke

[Holmesy]

5 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

There have been plenty of managers over the last 25 years who have impressed in various shapes and forms. But only a select few have proven to have the ability to cross that final divide - win the PL, compete in the CL as they belong, win a cup playing excellent, outstanding football, leaving no doubt that their team deserved the trophy. Eddie Howe is one of them. Be very, very careful if you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Iraola, Glasner - all look impressive on paper, but they have not been tested in the final hurdle. 

 

I have been on record here as being an Eddie Howe fan. I believe I praised his achievements on here before he was linked to your job. In 2016, when it was time to replace Rodgers, Michael Edwards had a three-person shortlist - Ancelotti, Klopp, and Howe. Klopp won out due to his experience. When it was time to replace Klopp, Edwards again had three people - Alonso, Slot, and Howe. Howe declined to even consider the position. I am betting next time the LFC job opens up, which may be as early as May, Howe will be on Edwards' shortlist. 

 

Has he made mistakes with signings? I don't know the full details, and you all know more than I do, but it looks like he has. Maybe he does not have the best acumen for players. And based on what you all are saying, he is responsible for your club not performing to expectations this season. Having said that, Howe has that unique ability that top managers like Klopp and Guardiola have: at its peak, when everything is purring, the football is irresistible, untouchable; average players suddenly look five times better. You did not win the cup or compete in the CL by playing plucky underdog football. Your team stepped onto the pitch and competed as if they deserved to be there. Managers who can instill that come along once every decade. 

 

So why risk it? Wouldn't it be better to hire a strong CEO who can handle Howe's and a DOF's clashes and create a path forward, constantly reminding both of them that they need each other to succeed? 

 

If you end up relieving Howe of the manager's job this summer, he is not going to take over a lower-league club. There is a very good chance that he ends up at a club like Liverpool with someone like Michael Edwards pulling the strings from the background. 

 

You know that Michael Edwards and Eddie Howe are really close friends don’t you?

It was reported that Eddie wanted him here as Sporting Director early on.

 

 

[Deuce]

7 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

There have been plenty of managers over the last 25 years who have impressed in various shapes and forms. But only a select few have proven to have the ability to cross that final divide - win the PL, compete in the CL as they belong, win a cup playing excellent, outstanding football, leaving no doubt that their team deserved the trophy. Eddie Howe is one of them. Be very, very careful if you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Iraola, Glasner - all look impressive on paper, but they have not been tested in the final hurdle. 

 

I have been on record here as being an Eddie Howe fan. I believe I praised his achievements on here before he was linked to your job. In 2016, when it was time to replace Rodgers, Michael Edwards had a three-person shortlist - Ancelotti, Klopp, and Howe. Klopp won out due to his experience. When it was time to replace Klopp, Edwards again had three people - Alonso, Slot, and Howe. Howe declined to even consider the position. I am betting next time the LFC job opens up, which may be as early as May, Howe will be on Edwards' shortlist. 

 

Has he made mistakes with signings? I don't know the full details, and you all know more than I do, but it looks like he has. Maybe he does not have the best acumen for players. And based on what you all are saying, he is responsible for your club not performing to expectations this season. Having said that, Howe has that unique ability that top managers like Klopp and Guardiola have: at its peak, when everything is purring, the football is irresistible, untouchable; average players suddenly look five times better. You did not win the cup or compete in the CL by playing plucky underdog football. Your team stepped onto the pitch and competed as if they deserved to be there. Managers who can instill that come along once every decade. 

 

So why risk it? Wouldn't it be better to hire a strong CEO who can handle Howe's and a DOF's clashes and create a path forward, constantly reminding both of them that they need each other to succeed? 

 

If you end up relieving Howe of the manager's job this summer, he is not going to take over a lower-league club. There is a very good chance that he ends up at a club like Liverpool with someone like Michael Edwards pulling the strings from the background. 

 

I’m still a ‘yes’ but this an awful lot of mythologizing.  

[The Prophet]

28 minutes ago, 1881 said:

If you need to compare seasons, then you have to compare everything otherwise it is meaningless 

 

I don’t remember Bruce getting us to the semi-finals of the League Cup.

 

I don’t remember Bruce getting us to the knockout stages  of the Champions League.

 

i don’t remember Bruce having to manage such a huge number of games either.

 

Bruce is a complete irrelevance to the conversation, unless you're on the wind-up.

 

Best to just ignore such patter.

[Kimbo]

14 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

There have been plenty of managers over the last 25 years who have impressed in various shapes and forms. But only a select few have proven to have the ability to cross that final divide - win the PL, compete in the CL as they belong, win a cup playing excellent, outstanding football, leaving no doubt that their team deserved the trophy. Eddie Howe is one of them. Be very, very careful if you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Iraola, Glasner - all look impressive on paper, but they have not been tested in the final hurdle. 

 

I have been on record here as being an Eddie Howe fan. I believe I praised his achievements on here before he was linked to your job. In 2016, when it was time to replace Rodgers, Michael Edwards had a three-person shortlist - Ancelotti, Klopp, and Howe. Klopp won out due to his experience. When it was time to replace Klopp, Edwards again had three people - Alonso, Slot, and Howe. Howe declined to even consider the position. I am betting next time the LFC job opens up, which may be as early as May, Howe will be on Edwards' shortlist. 

 

Has he made mistakes with signings? I don't know the full details, and you all know more than I do, but it looks like he has. Maybe he does not have the best acumen for players. And based on what you all are saying, he is responsible for your club not performing to expectations this season. Having said that, Howe has that unique ability that top managers like Klopp and Guardiola have: at its peak, when everything is purring, the football is irresistible, untouchable; average players suddenly look five times better. You did not win the cup or compete in the CL by playing plucky underdog football. Your team stepped onto the pitch and competed as if they deserved to be there. Managers who can instill that come along once every decade. 

 

So why risk it? Wouldn't it be better to hire a strong CEO who can handle Howe's and a DOF's clashes and create a path forward, constantly reminding both of them that they need each other to succeed? 

 

If you end up relieving Howe of the manager's job this summer, he is not going to take over a lower-league club. There is a very good chance that he ends up at a club like Liverpool with someone like Michael Edwards pulling the strings from the background. 

 

Glasner won the FA Cup?

 

The answer to the question “why risk it” is that we’re becoming a relegation risk, that’s the direction of travel. 

[Andy]

Just now, Deuce said:

I’m still a ‘yes’ but this an awful lot of mythologizing.  

 

Aye I thought that too

 

Eddie's done a top job here but he isn't anywhere near Klopp and Pep's bracket. He'd absolutely be in contention for a "best of the rest" over the past few seasons, but I think overplaying his achievements or acting like he's a generational manager does him no favours. 

 

Glasner won an FA Cup last season, Emery has pretty much matched Howe beat for beat in the league and in Europe, hell Ange won a Europa League, and if he didn't, Amorim would have. Slot won the league and Arteta may well do so this season. 

 

Even Nuno nearly sneaked a champions league spot with a much weaker squad. 

 

Not to disparage the job has done at all, and like you I'm still on the "in" side, but I think suggesting it would be some irredeemable, unbelievable mistake to get rid of him is almost as daft as comparing him to Bruce. 

[Theregulars]

34 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Just watching the Chelsea/Leeds game. Leeds 1-0 down at half time, Farke has made changes and altered the shape at half time, and now they’re on top.
This is the kind of management people are talking about with regards to a plan b. Positive in-game management in response to things that aren’t working. 
 

What I wouldn’t give!

The score remained the same and Leeds lost 

[Robster]

2 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

The score remained the same and Leeds lost 

Perfect post.

[barton]

31 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

There have been plenty of managers over the last 25 years who have impressed in various shapes and forms. But only a select few have proven to have the ability to cross that final divide - win the PL, compete in the CL as they belong, win a cup playing excellent, outstanding football, leaving no doubt that their team deserved the trophy. Eddie Howe is one of them. Be very, very careful if you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Iraola, Glasner - all look impressive on paper, but they have not been tested in the final hurdle. 

 

I have been on record here as being an Eddie Howe fan. I believe I praised his achievements on here before he was linked to your job. In 2016, when it was time to replace Rodgers, Michael Edwards had a three-person shortlist - Ancelotti, Klopp, and Howe. Klopp won out due to his experience. When it was time to replace Klopp, Edwards again had three people - Alonso, Slot, and Howe. Howe declined to even consider the position. I am betting next time the LFC job opens up, which may be as early as May, Howe will be on Edwards' shortlist. 

 

Has he made mistakes with signings? I don't know the full details, and you all know more than I do, but it looks like he has. Maybe he does not have the best acumen for players. And based on what you all are saying, he is responsible for your club not performing to expectations this season. Having said that, Howe has that unique ability that top managers like Klopp and Guardiola have: at its peak, when everything is purring, the football is irresistible, untouchable; average players suddenly look five times better. You did not win the cup or compete in the CL by playing plucky underdog football. Your team stepped onto the pitch and competed as if they deserved to be there. Managers who can instill that come along once every decade. 

 

So why risk it? Wouldn't it be better to hire a strong CEO who can handle Howe's and a DOF's clashes and create a path forward, constantly reminding both of them that they need each other to succeed? 

 

If you end up relieving Howe of the manager's job this summer, he is not going to take over a lower-league club. There is a very good chance that he ends up at a club like Liverpool with someone like Michael Edwards pulling the strings from the background. 

 

great post. I’m firmly in the Eddie camp, even if we’ve had a shit season. 

[Nine]

5 hours ago, leffe186 said:

More than Man City or Arsenal?

Actually yes and we have the same strength in depth? Non conversation 

[Heron]

49 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

Burn was fine yesterday 

People have a predisposition on players like Burn. He has been exposed at LB a lot and it clearly isn't his position but that doesn't mean he's shite there every game. He was absolutely fine there at the weekend and hence why Arsenal used a different strategy to get their goal. That wasn't Burns fault - it was good tactics from Arsenal and good execution versus us not managing it as a team and waking up to the new tactic early enough.

[Holmesy]

8 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

The score remained the same and Leeds lost 

Good point. Don't know what I was thinking advocating pro-active in-game management. What a dick!

[Andy]

Btw, not to go at rgk too much as I know that post is well-meaning, but I have my doubts that the majority of Liverpool fans would be thrilled if Eddie got Slot's job on the back of the season we've had. Don't think he'd be an attractive enough name for them at all.