Eddie Howe

[Drewboy74]

3 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

It was said very tongue in cheek tbh. He clearly sees things in some of our players that we don't but he also has to understand that we're a big club with big ambitions. Wanting to keep players who aren't good enough because you trust them isn't big club mentality. We're also a business - if we get decent offers for older fringe players we can replace with younger ones with higher ceilings, he has to be prepared to bend a bit.

 

 

 

Remember though, we're a big club with big ambitions hampered by rules which will never allow us to challenge. Of course he puts trust in certain players and I get that it raises some eyebrows. It happened to me on Saturday when he played Burn over Hall. Decisions he makes, like that, and having a big club mentality shouldn't really come into the same conversation.

[Strawberry]

I still believe Howe will leave at the end of the season.

[Ben]

5 minutes ago, Strawberry said:

I still believe Howe will leave at the end of the season.

 

Has Iraola found a new club yet ? 

[Holmesy]

16 minutes ago, Drewboy74 said:

Remember though, we're a big club with big ambitions hampered by rules which will never allow us to challenge. Of course he puts trust in certain players and I get that it raises some eyebrows. It happened to me on Saturday when he played Burn over Hall. Decisions he makes, like that, and having a big club mentality shouldn't really come into the same conversation.

I get that, I think we all had the same feeling at the weekend, to be proved wrong. But, keeping the likes of Murphy, Willock, possibly even Joelinton for another season when we can/might get reasonable money for them (and recoup money from the reduction in salaries from them to their replacements) makes good business sense, and we have to balance the finances with the playing side of things. 
Like you say, we have to play the system better than most because we’re hampered. The system is surely better played by offloading your older players when you get the opportunity, assuming we do. 

 

[r0cafella]

Our current squad size is ok given no Europe. 

 

No issue with one in one out, however we can't be clinging on to disinterested, stale players who don't want to be here or those who's contracts are expiring and not going to be renewed. 

 

[duo]

2 hours ago, Strawberry said:

I still believe Howe will leave at the end of the season.

Gut feeling? I think the final games will define it

[Ben]

On the whole i was fine with the transfers last summer, no doubt Howe was as well, however 3 or 4 or them have not worked at all and we spent a lot of money on them, add to that the ones who are coming to the end of their careers.

 

It might just seem like to big of a rebuild for him, hes all about progression and moving forward, with no Europe next season we have definitely gone backwards.

 

Does Howe have it in him to go again ? I genuinely hope so, but I'm not 100% sure he will.

[Wallsendmag]

11 hours ago, Shearergol said:

I mean he’s kinda right. We had too many first teamers to bring in and had to settle on some shit ones.

 

Which shit ones did we settle for then? All our 1st team players were brought in at fees ranging from £35m-£70m. That shouldn't be in the "bargain basement shite" category.

[Zero]

I find it really odd to say the reason for this seasons failure is due to bringing in too much first team players.

 

1. So instead of we are short of players, we are in fact having adequate or even abundant squad depth?

 

2. So in order not to repeat it, we shouldn’t bring in many players this coming summer? Which is almost opposite to what we cry for nearly the whole season I.e. the squad is not good enough and we need a rebuild / overhaul?

 

3. And did we really change that much?  May be I am wrong but I don’t think we did? The only one playing regularly is Thiaw right? 
 

 

May be we will have a very quiet summer which no ins and outs then? Might not be a bad idea since I think the current squad is good enough for top 6 finish, if Eddie is back to his best. I just find it odd.

[TRon]

11 hours ago, Strawberry said:

I still believe Howe will leave at the end of the season.

 

 

I don't. Simply because I don't think the board have anyone else lined up. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, TRon said:

I don't. Simply because I don't think the board have anyone else lined up. 

Because they don’t want to change the manager? 
 

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Because they don’t want to change the manager? 
 

 

Just have to look at how long they took to replace Eales as CEO and Mitchell as DOF. I don't think there's anybody there with the authority to make a decision without going through a long accountability process. In which case you can understand why they would rather just stick for now and see if next season goes a bit better. 

[Theregulars]

12 hours ago, Shearergol said:

I don’t fully disagree, the club did a terrible job, and I’ll never ever understand why we bought either Elanga or Woltemade, but it was still too many players to bring in during one window. Signing a right winger 3 years ago like we needed would have sorted part of it.

We did, we were forced to sell him due to arbitrary and cartel-protective rules. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Just have to look at how long they took to replace Eales as CEO and Mitchell as DOF. I don't think there's anybody there with the authority to make a decision without going through a long accountability process. In which case you can understand why they would rather just stick for now and see if next season goes a bit better. 

 

You think that's the reason though? Not that they think Howe is good and want to give him more time - just that they can't be arsed to find a new manager?

[TRon]

6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

You think that's the reason though? Not that they think Howe is good and want to give him more time - just that they can't be arsed to find a new manager?

 

 

Who would make the decision even if they had doubts? Wilson?

 

I think faith in Howe is less than it was before, but I'm not sure there is a clear vision for next season, other than give him another shot based on previous success. Buying young technical players and Howe in charge doesn't seem to quite line up for me. 

[The College Dropout]

16 hours ago, TRon said:

I don't expect much change next season anyway. Our football was poor right from the start of the season, I think results might improve somewhat next time round with no Europe, but I think we will probably be around mid-table again. 

 

 

Not with half the league in Europe.

 

There are 4 European sides in the bottom 8 in the league.

[The Prophet]

Just now, TRon said:

 

 

Who would make the decision even if they had doubts? Wilson?

 

I think faith in Howe is less than it was before, but I'm not sure there is a clear vision for next season, other than give him another shot based on previous success. Buying young technical players and Howe in charge doesn't seem to quite line up for me. 

 

Normally, it's the Sporting Director's job to line up a contingency plan. How many levels of club bureaucracy that would need to be signed off by, fuck knows.

[Robster]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

 

Who would make the decision even if they had doubts? Wilson?

 

I think faith in Howe is less than it was before, but I'm not sure there is a clear vision for next season, other than give him another shot based on previous success. Buying young technical players and Howe in charge doesn't seem to quite line up for me. 

Feels like you are searching for reasons to be negative about everything and are dreaming up scenarios.

 

 

Edited May 7 by Robster

[huss9]

1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

 

I don't. Simply because I don't think the board have anyone else lined up. 

might be Howe's decision

[TRon]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Not with half the league in Europe.

 

There are 4 European sides in the bottom 8 in the league.

 

 

What sort of finish would you be expecting next time round?

 

[TRon]

9 minutes ago, Robster said:

Feels like you are searching for reasons to be negative about everything and are dreaming up scenarios.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going off what I've seen this season. It might be that we bring in a bunch of technically talented young players in the summer and Howe gets a tune out of them immediately. I thought we had a valuable squad this season and they've looked much worse than the sum of their parts. So yes, I have some doubts about a new direction, but it's possible he could get new players to play his way more effectively. 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, TRon said:

 

 

What sort of finish would you be expecting next time round?

 

Depends on the summer transfer activity for us, for others and if Spurs go down. And who gets into Europe.

 

I'd say now 6th-8th. With no Europe and some of the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton & Brentford in Europe, 8th is the floor. Forest and Palace may be in it too. Below Top 6 + Villa (better run club) is acceptable. Anything else is not.

 

Rocking up with Barnes/Gordon - Woltemade/Wissa/Osula - Elanga/Murphy we could finish 10th.

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Depends on the summer transfer activity for us, for others and if Spurs go down. And who gets into Europe.

 

I'd say now 6th-8th. With no Europe and some of the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton & Brentford in Europe, 8th is the floor. Forest and Palace may be in it too. Below Top 6 + Villa (better run club) is acceptable. Anything else is not.

 

Rocking up with Barnes/Gordon - Woltemade/Wissa/Osula - Elanga/Murphy we could finish 10th.

10th is optimistic, if those are our attacking options.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

10th is optimistic, if those are our attacking options.

Playing once a week is a huge advantage.

Brighton have a deep squad and Conference League isn't the strongest. But they can't cope with a 60-game season.

[Robster]

8 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I'm going off what I've seen this season. It might be that we bring in a bunch of technically talented young players in the summer and Howe gets a tune out of them immediately. I thought we had a valuable squad this season and they've looked much worse than the sum of their parts. So yes, I have some doubts about a new direction, but it's possible he could get new players to play his way more effectively. 

It's fair to have doubts but it feels like people seem so certain about certain things, such as you saying that the club don't have anyone else lined up. Who amongst us could possibly know.

Not having a dig but I wish people could be a bit more positive until the summer is over, after which if it's all gone pear shaped, then being negative and complaining can be justified.