Eddie Howe

[Mountain]

11 minutes ago, Nedders said:

In my opinion this is sympathetic crap and I don’t follow why anyone subscribes to the view. I don’t quite get why Howe has such deep reserves of sympathy. Hes central to the worst window we’ve ever had, has underperformed to an almost absurd level and failed to achieve on every marker the club should have. For over a year. It’s frankly bizarre - there should be a clamour for his head, because what we are left with is abject. Wissa, Elanga, Ramsdale, Murphy, even Barnes then you have Gordon giving up, Tonali same, I just think it’s a horror show. It we were genuinely aspirational he’d be gone but I don’t think we are; I think instead this is a profiteering exercise from Saudi and as such real success isn’t on the table. Howe looks like the cat with the cream , utterly bulletproof, no threat. Its going to get worse, all.

 

The same reason Ed Sheeran has had 14 songs that have reached number 1 in the charts. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Fuck me. Glad the seasons over. 

[Whitley mag]

For him to have any chance next season he needs to be ruthless this summer. With SCR even if we sell Gordon and Tonali, I still think it’ll be a one in and one out policy.

 

I’m already seeing murmurs that we might keep Schar, we’re crying out for a new CB in my opinion, if we keep Schar that’s 4 CB’s and no chance a new one is coming in.

 

The likes of Willock and Murphy should be gone this summer, under Eddie can anyone confidently predict Murphy won’t be on that team sheet come August?

 

Club insiders have already riled against a huge rebuild being required this summer, doesn’t take a genius to know where that comes from.

 

Get this summer wrong and we’ll be in a relegation battle next season, the squad is lacking massively in quality and hunger.

 

 

[Heron]

At the start of the season I reckon most folk would have took Europa League after reaching the knockout phases of the CL and a cup semi final in the league cup final with going out to Man City in the FA Cup.

 

This is the thing.

 

Lots of uses of passionate and exaggerated statements, views and beliefs in here in a season that has been as expected on the cups and poor in the league, but results wise - we're probably talking about 2 wins...2 Derby day wins.

[Milburn]

23 minutes ago, Nedders said:

In my opinion this is sympathetic crap and I don’t follow why anyone subscribes to the view. I don’t quite get why Howe has such deep reserves of sympathy. Hes central to the worst window we’ve ever had, has underperformed to an almost absurd level and failed to achieve on every marker the club should have. For over a year. It’s frankly bizarre - there should be a clamour for his head, because what we are left with is abject. Wissa, Elanga, Ramsdale, Murphy, even Barnes then you have Gordon giving up, Tonali same, I just think it’s a horror show. It we were genuinely aspirational he’d be gone but I don’t think we are; I think instead this is a profiteering exercise from Saudi and as such real success isn’t on the table. Howe looks like the cat with the cream , utterly bulletproof, no threat. Its going to get worse, all.

I fear there’s something in that.

 

If this club was truly ruthless and relentlessly ambitious purely from a football perspective, I struggle to believe a season like this just gets waved through with “let’s go again next year”.

[Heron]

1 minute ago, Milburn said:

I fear there’s something in that.

 

If this club was truly ruthless and relentlessly ambitious purely from a football perspective, I struggle to believe a season like this just gets waved through with “let’s go again next year”.

No they most likely do a root cause analysis and have found from their investigations that Howe is a contributory or secondary factor rather than the ultimate root cause. Whether folk agree or not.

[Milburn]

5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

For him to have any chance next season he needs to be ruthless this summer. With SCR even if we sell Gordon and Tonali, I still think it’ll be a one in and one out policy.

 

I’m already seeing murmurs that we might keep Schar, we’re crying out for a new CB in my opinion, if we keep Schar that’s 4 CB’s and no chance a new one is coming in.

 

The likes of Willock and Murphy should be gone this summer, under Eddie can anyone confidently predict Murphy won’t be on that team sheet come August?

 

Club insiders have already riled against a huge rebuild being required this summer, doesn’t take a genius to know where that comes from.

 

Get this summer wrong and we’ll be in a relegation battle next season, the squad is lacking massively in quality and hunger.

 

 

I 100% expect both Murphy and Dan Burn to be in the starting lineup first match next season 

[Weznufc]

8 minutes ago, Milburn said:

I 100% expect both Murphy and Dan Burn to be in the starting lineup first match next season 

We all do and that's the problem.  We need a new manager.  

[Dokko]

Seen his presser. Just the usual shit. If this was any other manager he'd be hung by now. 

 

Go into next season with him and we've lost the entire thing. He's got nothing left. Ian beale might as well be up there.

[Conjo]

2 hours ago, oldtype said:

Chelsea had a better and deeper squad to begin with, outspent us last summer including beating us to one of our top targets, enjoy innumerable structural advantages over us, yet still landed about the same place we are this season.

 

Let’s not even get started about Spurs.

 

The reality is that performing consistently in the premier league is harder than it’s ever been and nobody is more than a handful of bad decisions away from a shit season.
 

We sucked ass this year, but let’s maybe take a beat before concluding that the manager has hit his ceiling or that the club is doomed forever. Look at all the “top six” clubs who have chopped and changed managers after a swoon recently and see how well it worked out for them.

 

 

[Minhosa]

18 minutes ago, Heron said:

At the start of the season I reckon most folk would have took Europa League after reaching the knockout phases of the CL and a cup semi final in the league cup final with going out to Man City in the FA Cup.

 

This is the thing.

 

Lots of uses of passionate and exaggerated statements, views and beliefs in here in a season that has been as expected on the cups and poor in the league, but results wise - we're probably talking about 2 wins...2 Derby day wins.

Howe massively underestimated the first Derby imho. He then didn’t prioritise the second one. For such an intelligent bloke, he’s certainly missed the learning opportunity in that imho. 
 

His derby performance this season has massively undone much of the goodwill across the supporter base. If he can’t see that ahead of next season and majorly prioritise those fixtures next year, he’ll be in a world of trouble. 
 

This isn’t Bournemouth and Southampton. 

[Heron]

4 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Howe massively underestimated the first Derby imho. He then didn’t prioritise the second one. For such an intelligent bloke, he’s certainly missed the learning opportunity in that imho. 
 

His derby performance this season has massively undone much of the goodwill across the supporter base. If he can’t see that ahead of next season and majorly prioritise those fixtures next year, he’ll be in a world of trouble. 
 

This isn’t Bournemouth and Southampton. 

Yep. I think that's fair.

[GOTONEW]

3 hours ago, UncleBingo said:

Hysterical and entitled fannies like you make me ashamed to support this club nowadays in all honesty. 

 

 

 

Ashamed to support this club? Because some supporters don't think like you? That's the worst, being ashamed to support NUFC. It's..."hysterical and entitled". All it took was someone else's opinion...and you're ashamed to support NUFC.

[Heron]

3 minutes ago, GOTONEW said:

Ashamed to support this club? Because some supporters don't think like you? That's the worst, being ashamed to support NUFC. It's..."hysterical and entitled". All it took was someone else's opinion...and you're ashamed to support NUFC.

I think he's referring more to the vitriolic way in that folk have 180d on last years emotions and now seem intent on slating Howe beyond reasonable levels and/or on personal levels for one below par league season tbh.

 

 

Edited May 24 by Heron

[TRC]

48 minutes ago, Heron said:

At the start of the season I reckon most folk would have took Europa League after reaching the knockout phases of the CL and a cup semi final in the league cup final with going out to Man City in the FA Cup.

 

This is the thing.

 

Lots of uses of passionate and exaggerated statements, views and beliefs in here in a season that has been as expected on the cups and poor in the league, but results wise - we're probably talking about 2 wins...2 Derby day wins.

I hear what you are saying but ultimately that makes it worse, look how many chances we had. Beat Palace who didn’t give a fuck, Forest who just got humiliated 4 days prior. Fulham on the beach today without Andersen, Brentford x 2, Mackems twice, West Ham away, Everton at home, Spurs at home, Wolves away. So many opportunities not taken.

A season where Spurs and and Chelsea were historically shite by their standards and we still couldn’t get a few results needed to have a passable season.

[Wolfcastle]

34 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Howe massively underestimated the first Derby imho. He then didn’t prioritise the second one. For such an intelligent bloke, he’s certainly missed the learning opportunity in that imho. 
 

His derby performance this season has massively undone much of the goodwill across the supporter base. If he can’t see that ahead of next season and majorly prioritise those fixtures next year, he’ll be in a world of trouble. 
 

This isn’t Bournemouth and Southampton. 

Yeah I'm disappointed in how he and the club treat those games in a similar way to I am about today tbh. 

Really thought Howe was better than that. That he'd have riled the players up to perform for the fans today even with nothing else to play for, even especially as there was nothing else to play for (ala Rafa) and I think you're right about that likeness, I don't think he went in arrogantly like the "miss the Derby's" folk on here but more because he's not experienced passionate derbys exemplified by Tindall's nieces purported response to the backlash which was standard if not tame.

 

 

Edited May 24 by Wolfcastle

[Ilovetoon8788]

I'm really hoping this is just a one off season and forget it. 

 

I'm worried as I've not seen anything from him this season to show he has what it takes. He still looks lost. 

[Kid Icarus]

We all represent the club, and I think there are plenty who think some are representing it poorly with the absolute venom that they have for club legends who've achieved more than anyone in our lifetimes just over 12 months ago, as well as the perceived entitlement they have based on very little.

 

If we can be proud of elements of the club, there will always be elements that make you feel ashamed. 

 

This is one of them imo, but it's a sort of strange comfort to know that football is just like this now and huge swathes of fans go on like this.

 

 

Edited May 25 by Kid Icarus

[Heron]

Just now, TRC said:

I hear what you are saying but ultimately that makes it worse, look how many chances we had. Beat Palace who didn’t give a fuck, Forest who just got humiliated 4 days prior. Fulham on the beach today without Andersen, Brentford x 2, Mackems twice, West Ham away, Everton at home, Spurs at home, Wolves away. So many opportunities not taken.

A season where Spurs and and Chelsea were historically shite by their standards and we still couldn’t get a few results needed to have a passable season.

And yet by the same token this suggests we weren't also alone in the difficulties we or indeed others in recent seasons have also faced.

 

I agree, by the way.

[Minhosa]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We all represent the club, and I think there a plenty who think some are representing it poorly with the absolute venom that they have for club legends who've achieved more than anyone in our lifetimes just over 12 months ago, as well as the perceived entitlement they have based on very little.

 

If we can be proud of elements of the club, there will always be elements that make you feel ashamed. 

 

This is one of them imo, but it's a sort of strange comfort to know that football is just like this now and huge swathes of fans go on like this.

 

 

 

If patronising was an Olympic sport, you’d be a gold medalist. 

[TRC]

Just now, Heron said:

And yet by the same token this suggests we weren't also alone in the difficulties we or indeed others in recent seasons have also faced.

 

I agree, by the way.

I don’t care about others, Spurs have been mismanaged for years and have been sleep walking towards this. Chelsea are clearly ran so poorly this would happen at some point. Chelsea have made big moves in getting Xabi to ensure this doesn’t happen again, Spurs with a big De Zerbi appointment. Look at West Ham this season, it seems an impossible task to get relegated these days but they did it.

 

We need to make a statement so we can say this is a one off, it simply can’t happen again.

[Mountain]

10 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Howe massively underestimated the first Derby imho. He then didn’t prioritise the second one. For such an intelligent bloke, he’s certainly missed the learning opportunity in that imho. 
 

His derby performance this season has massively undone much of the goodwill across the supporter base. If he can’t see that ahead of next season and majorly prioritise those fixtures next year, he’ll be in a world of trouble. 
 

This isn’t Bournemouth and Southampton. 

 

 

There are levels of intelligence. He's obviously extremely bright in certain ways. He comes across very well, with good media training. He knows how to be humble and has belief in himself. But deep down, he's not very introspective or cerebral. He's like a modern establishment politician, a lot of confidence in his way of doing things, but no genuinely complex vision of the future.

 

 

[TRC]

1 minute ago, Mountain said:

 

 

There are levels of intelligence. He's obviously extremely bright in certain ways. He comes across very well, with good media training. He knows how to be humble and has belief in himself. But deep down, he's not very introspective or cerebral. He's like a modern establishment politician, a lot of confidence in his way of doing things, but no genuinely complex vision of the future.

 

 

To me he’s just a safe pair of hands, really good playing underdog football but away against a mid table team when we have to win I don’t have much hope.

[Mountain]

5 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

If patronising was an Olympic sport, you’d be a gold medalist. 

 

 

He's like a school teacher "we all represent the club"

 

"If you wear this school's blazer you are representing this school"

 

It's kicking a ball around a pitch, I just want us to do it in a less ugly manner.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

46 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Howe massively underestimated the first Derby imho. He then didn’t prioritise the second one. For such an intelligent bloke, he’s certainly missed the learning opportunity in that imho. 
 

His derby performance this season has massively undone much of the goodwill across the supporter base. If he can’t see that ahead of next season and majorly prioritise those fixtures next year, he’ll be in a world of trouble. 
 

This isn’t Bournemouth and Southampton. 

The home game massively soured my feelings about this current squad and management tbh. I fundamentally don’t think they ‘get it’ when it comes to these games. The level of passiveness and lack of bottle in that second half is something that’s stuck with me.

 

That’s not to mention the absolutely nothing performance at their place as well.