TRon Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do you think we can attract an elite manager? Yes. Just not sure there's that many elite managers who are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pilko said: Part of that is on him to either drop them or find a system that does work for them, and he's failed to do either so far. agreed, but we have a system that works for them. We scored absolutely shit tonnes of goals last season using it. The players have to be responsible for the effort they put in and Gordon has been lazy as fuck all season and Bruno doesn't look anything like he did last season physically, even if he is statistically running further than anyone else in the league. Edited November 30, 2024 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 35 minutes ago, Erikse said: Yeah, fair, but look at Arne Slot for example. I had never even heard of him myself. Not sure our board has the same "creativity" or know the market well enough, though. That would be on Mitchell, surely... Hopefully he does his job well when the time comes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vexred said: He has to take some blame. The balance of the team is horrible. His tactics and the balance means we only have one way of playing. I'd make a change in the summer if an elite manager becomes available. If we wait till summer it’s another season of failure surely? Apart from the happyclapper (forget his name), Ian W and a couple of Americans who on here still thinks we finish top 5/6? Edited November 30, 2024 by Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I'd rather get rid of a host of players before losing the manager. Things are a bit stale, some poor decision making at either end of the pitch and the side are lacking some confidence/motivation for whatever reason. I'd be looking at a bit of a fire sale and a mini rebuild. We've got some really great things about our squad. I'd pretty much take offers for most of our players, in order to be able to do some business in the transfer market. Eddie Howe is, at minimum, a good manager. We've had 3 managers in the PL era who can sit at the same table as him, in 30 years of football. In my opinion, losing him would be catastrophic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 38 minutes ago, Scoot said: Will never shout for him to be sacked but these performances we are seeing are the norm these days. I hope he can turn it around but I have my doubts to be honest. Will back him as long as he's here though. Not being sarcy, but if you become unconvinced he's the person to lead Newcastle to more than being a top half side, why would you continue to back him? My view is: Newcastle were hit for six with injuries last year. There's no such excuse for this season so far that holds water. The squad isn't perfect, find me one that is. He deserves until the end of the season to turn it around, but I wouldn't give him more money to spend in January. He's got enough to work with and show progress, otherwise we should be saving that money for the next dude. I understand the instinct to not be reactionary, and that Howe is a decent guy who brought stability and dignity - but I think we can be appreciative of his impact whilst recognising he might be not the guy to take us out of the congested middle of the pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 A good read on Iraola’s style of football, which has a lot of similarities to Howe’s first full season here, but with the midfield shape that we have been crying out for. https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/13235389/andoni-iraola-explains-the-high-risk-tactics-behind-his-bournemouth-transformation-before-arsenal-test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, Groundhog63 said: Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly Grateful for being 10th? Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do you think we can attract an elite manager? Of course. Nearly all elite managers want to manage in the PL. Villa have Emery, I don't see why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, Matt1892 said: A good read on Iraola’s style of football, which has a lot of similarities to Howe’s first full season here, but with the midfield shape that we have been crying out for. https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/13235389/andoni-iraola-explains-the-high-risk-tactics-behind-his-bournemouth-transformation-before-arsenal-test I can’t see us appointing anyone currently employed tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I’m not sure what I would do if I was Howe TBH. He really can’t abandon the basic philosophy he’s been pushing since day one. And whichever best 11 I sketch out has some serious questions and contains at least 2 or 3 players who aren’t top quality. Very difficult, starting to think Tonali - Bruno - Miley might be our best midfield 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, Ronaldo said: If we wait till summer it’s another season of failure surely? Apart from the happyclapper (forget his name), Ian W and a couple of Americans who on here still thinks we have any chance of top 5/6? It's three points away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 On 27/11/2024 at 15:50, Yorkie said: Yep, spot on. In some cases it just reads like choosing anxiety over reality. See also 'West Ham were absolutely shit.' It's just not real. Bad result, yes. Embarrassing result against some lesser beings, no. as i said, shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Plus we've spent enough on that squad where no one bar the striker should be irrplaceable. We've had a very strong bench in the last couple of games which shows there are options. Problem is it might be too late then and we're looking at a total rebuild again. I'm not sure the owners will accept that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: A good read on Iraola’s style of football, which has a lot of similarities to Howe’s first full season here, but with the midfield shape that we have been crying out for. https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/13235389/andoni-iraola-explains-the-high-risk-tactics-behind-his-bournemouth-transformation-before-arsenal-test He's a better manager than Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 22 minutes ago, TRon said: You would think that the way some of the heads seem to be down, but I don't think so. Maybe they don't all buy into the tactics though. I think this might be it. I think they're loyal to him as a man, but I'm not sure they have faith in the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 24 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Last year we had some high quality rotations and patterns of play. What the fuck happened? It's a mystery to me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: It's three points away. We're also a win away from most of these posters not posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly No need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I’m probably going to get pelters but Eddie is a very,very good football coach not a manager. A lot of elite managers leave training to their first team coaches. Eddie tries to do both but he can’t at the highest level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: It's three points away. Not sure that will be the case once this weekends fixtures have played out. Plus I imagine the second half of the season will be a lot harder than the first since we had a relatively easy start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Some fucking right whiney, deluded, ungrateful fannied on here mind. Unsurprisingly Only one person whining and making sweeping statements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Beren said: Not being sarcy, but if you become unconvinced he's the person to lead Newcastle to more than being a top half side, why would you continue to back him? Because he deserves our backing still. He's done wonderful things for us whilst he's been here and if we are to replace him at some point, that's out of my control anyway. That's a club decision that will be made whether Eddie has the backing of the fans or not. Like I say, I still hope he can turn it around and as long as I have that hope, I'll back him 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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