r0cafella Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: According to Edwards he was talked out of it by Hopkinson and co. Since then he’s been rejuvenated by support from stands. Losing at home to Brentford must have triggered something, but can’t imagine his confidence has been boosted in the following weeks. His interview on Sunday certainly wasn’t the most inspiring and reeked of a manager non plussed. Really hoping this doesn't end up being a re-run of what transpired about Bournemouth then. I just cant help shake the feeling you offer to resign when you think you can no longer contribute, it isn't something to be talked out of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 17 hours ago, Cronky said: Bloody hell, guys. One crap season and Eddie is second-rate and the owners are only it for the money. My take on it is that the players are not actually that good, and Eddie has overachieved with them. This season, there have been other pressures which have brought us down - principally the relentless fixture list, the quality of the opposition in the Premier League, the disruption caused by Isak's exit, the recruitment issues with no DOF and CEO, and not least the absence of Bruno at a crucial stage. We have been very lucky with him. He has barely missed a game since he arrived. He is a very important player and we felt his absence acutely. Saying that Eddie is in the last-chance saloon is not a well-considered appraisal of his record or ability. It is a knee-jerk reaction to a disappointing season. Other than Joelinton they are all his signings though so that's pretty damning in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I must have missed this. Who confirmed he offered to resign after Brentford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, Robster said: I must have missed this. Who confirmed he offered to resign after Brentford? I dont think he did, he had a crisis of confidence that soon passed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Craig Hope on Talksport just now, he might have some info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, 500bhp said: I think too many people are overlooking Howe the person, not just Howe the football manager. Those of us old fuckers who were adults for the KK era will remember that for his last few months he looked shattered, less spark in interviews, self doubt had started, and as we found out later he had offered to resign before he eventually did. I see these similarities with Howe today. That's why I think him leaving by mutual consent is best for all. He has the KK look just before he left. Hope I'm wrong but I don’t think he has the energy, fight or self confidence to oversee the massive rebuild that's required. All just IMO of course. He absolutely does, he looks utterly drained. KK kept offering to resign; if it’s true re Howe post-Brentford, it should’ve been accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 33 minutes ago, Robster said: I must have missed this. Who confirmed he offered to resign after Brentford? A piece in the athletic the other day said he thought about walking away. I’m pretty sure it never said he offered to resign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Ben said: Craig Hope on Talksport just now, he might have some info. He's proper riled the Twtter lot with his "small online uprising" comments. That's a lovely old touch. Edited May 26 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Just now, The Prophet said: He's proper riled the Twtter lot with his "small online uprising" cocomments. That's a lovely old touch. Has he said anything of any substance? Not interested in the Twitter wars personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 52 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Other than Joelinton they are all his signings though so that's pretty damning in itself. ‘I’ve spent £700m but all the players are a bit shite and I’ve had to overachieve with them. Can I have another £200m please?’ It’s a bold sales pitch, but I suspect it would take a first rate PowerPoint to overcome some of the objections. (I don’t think the squad is shite). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: ‘I’ve spent £700m but all the players are a bit shite and I’ve had to overachieve with them. Can I have another £200m please?’ It’s a bold sales pitch, but I suspect it would take a first rate PowerPoint to overcome some of the objections. (I don’t think the squad is shite). I don’t really believe your understanding of the transfer situation is this basic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Has he said anything of any substance? Not interested in the Twitter wars personally. Nar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Has he said anything of any substance? Not interested in the Twitter wars personally. Just the usual waffle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 37 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t really believe your understanding of the transfer situation is this basic. It isn’t - I was joking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: A piece in the athletic the other day said he thought about walking away. I’m pretty sure it never said he offered to resign. Cheers. I didn't see that article. Was this their opinion or based on any actual fact ? (sorry that I'm asking you to re-write their pece) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I thought the general consensus is Howe had personally spunked £800m on shit players ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidg Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Really hoping this doesn't end up being a re-run of what transpired about Bournemouth then. I just cant help shake the feeling you offer to resign when you think you can no longer contribute, it isn't something to be talked out of. I think he's living in denial, and it's very alarming. He's chasing his losses. Kept saying he was desperate to play again after every bad loss. Refused to recognise the awful form of certain players. He's obviously going to protect his players, but saying that "Burn has never let us down in that position" when playing him at left back again - AFTER Brentford away - was infuriating. I wouldn't want to resign either if I was him, especially since he's more likely to end up at Spurs or Everton than an elite club, but all that talk of a willingness to leave and the journo chat about him being self-reflective is a load of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Robster said: Cheers. I didn't see that article. Was this their opinion or based on any actual fact ? (sorry that I'm asking you to re-write their pece) Maybe this bit of the long article... Edited May 26 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Guess if he knows he stayed at Bournemouth for too long, he now knows that he should stay at Newcastle for longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 There have been a number of posts which question Eddie's ability when it comes to identifying and signing players, but his overall record is very good. Things went awry last summer, but I don't think that was his fault. Eddie took over a team that was firmly in the relegation zone, without a win, and looking like they were going to go down with about 20 points. The signings that were made saved us from the drop, but they were limited in quality because we couldn't afford anything like top drawer, and many players weren't going to sign for a club is so much trouble. The exception was Bruno, but even in his case we were the only ones in for him. Arsenal were humming and hahing about a move in the summer, and that was about it. Eddie took us from that position to Champions League the next season, and our first major trophy for 70 years two years after that, along with another top five place. That was rightly hailed as a bit of a miracle of over-achievement. Yes, there were some good signings - notably Isak and Tonali - but even then we were the only ones after them at the time, and I think that both have played the best football of their careers under his management. Last summer's window was a bit of a shitshow, but that was largely caused by the absence of a DOF and CEO. In order to replace Isak, we went after Cunha, Mbeuno, Ekitike, and Sesko. None of them turned us down, but we were used as a backstop in case their preferred move to a 'big six' club failed to materialise. Perhaps we were naive, but you never know until you try. We hung on to the possibility of Isak re-signing for too long, and then we had to over pay for two replacement strikers at the last minute. None of that is Eddie's fault. Our specialist recruitment service was non-existent. Woltemade and Wissa haven't worked out, at least so far. I thought they were good signings at the time, but you can never tell completely in advance. It is lunacy for four seasons of excellent work in the transfer market to count for nothing because of one season of failure. We deserve to fail if we don't back Eddie at this point. As I've said, thankfully the people at the club seem to be doing that. But it can't help Eddie's morale if he hears lots of moaning from the stands. Keep the faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Is it going to be like this all summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 8 minutes ago, samptime29 said: Is it going to be like this all summer? It'll improve when the schools are off and the kids get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 56 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Maybe this bit of the long article... That's all well and good but the results/performances since say otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 14 minutes ago, samptime29 said: Is it going to be like this all summer? Yes, and into next season too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 15 minutes ago, samptime29 said: Is it going to be like this all summer? Sign a couple of unknown forrins and people will perk up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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