wormy Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 An extra 5%? Is that all? We're fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Think having such a young English manager that is so energetic and driven is just really good for Shelvey, and should really help motivate him, because he just really seems to need someone that has that kind of energy to help get him fired up. Really good to see it's having that kind of impact on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, KaKa said: Think having such a young English manager that is so energetic and driven is just really good for Shelvey, and should really help motivate him, because he just really seems to need someone that has that kind of energy to help get him fired up. Really good to see it's having that kind of impact on him. Happy to be proven wrong, but I'm dubious to think he's a reformed character or should have a future here beyond this season. Fantastic performance last out, and hope it continues but... Howe is not the first to throw an arm round his shoulder and publicly tell him how talented he is. Monk, Laudrup, Rodgers, and even Rafa all offered him the world, before he eventually let down by him. Bournemouth's last season up, remember Howe constantly playing Phil Billing, and whenever I watched them he was just treading water, immobile and being run ragged in midfield. Shelvey has always had ability, if we can get him focused that will raise performances, but he's physically and defensivly always going to let us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Think having such a young English manager that is so energetic and driven is just really good for Shelvey, and should really help motivate him, because he just really seems to need someone that has that kind of energy to help get him fired up. Really good to see it's having that kind of impact on him. And having a manager that Shelvey knows can build a system around his skill set rather than just throw him into a CM position and a pat on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: Happy to be proven wrong, but I'm dubious to think he's a reformed character or should have a future here beyond this season. Fantastic performance last out, and hope it continues but... Howe is not the first to throw an arm round his shoulder and publicly tell him how talented he is. Monk, Laudrup, Rodgers, and even Rafa all offered him the world, before he eventually let down by him. Bournemouth's last season up, remember Howe constantly playing Phil Billing, and whenever I watched them he was just treading water, immobile and being run ragged in midfield. Shelvey has always had ability, if we can get him focused that will raise performances, but he's physically and defensivly always going to let us down. Howe is not throwing an arm around his shoulder. That is more Bruce's approach and for someone like Shelvey I think it's the worst thing to do, as it allows him to coast. Sounds more like Howe is challenging him and demanding more from him because he knows he has the talent, and he is letting Shelvey know he is nowhere near maximising it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KaKa said: Howe is not throwing an arm around his shoulder. That is more Bruce's approach and for someone like Shelvey I think it's the worst thing to do, as it allows him to coast. Sounds more like Howe is challenging him and demanding more from him because he knows he has the talent, and he is letting Shelvey know he is nowhere near maximising it. Agreed, arm round the shoulder was used more turn of phrase on my part there. Howe will no doubt, like you say demanding performances and application from him. Hopefully it does click for him, not many players in the league have the technique in passing range he does, but just think it's come 3/4 years too late for him. He looked finally what we always thought under Rafa 17/18, playing in a two, but he let himself slide again. Years on now, he's physically gone I think, and has never in his career had any sense positionally in defensive transition. Any side in league should be looking at isolating that space behind him, and be running at our defence. Countless goals have come that route under Bruce, that will always be a weakness even under Howe He's better than what we ever saw him with Bruce and Bruceball, but it does speak to him and many other players they have it within themselves to be that consistently shit for over 3 season. Edited November 25, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Feeling sorry for Eddie right now. Being stuck in a hotel room for 10 days must be a nightmare. It's okay being stuck in your own home, but a hotel room? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Susan? Oh, hi. Can you make pornography come on my telly please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Wonder if he's tested negative yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Feeling sorry for Eddie right now. Being stuck in a hotel room for 10 days must be a nightmare. It's okay being stuck in your own home, but a hotel room? Room service, never have to wash a dish or change a bed, all the internet you need, every TV channel you could possibly need. Never have to worry about it being warm enough. You can have breakfast, dinner and lunch....in bed ! Lucky bloody Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 It's 10 days away from the training ground brigade! I don't think I've seen Adam Pearson tweet about being there recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: Room service, never have to wash a dish or change a bed, all the internet you need, every TV channel you could possibly need. Never have to worry about it being warm enough. You can have breakfast, dinner and lunch....in bed ! Lucky bloody Eddie after reading that, I’m shocked Bruce didn’t “test positive” every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Also I highly doubt he's at some Travelodge or something. He's probably also completely obsessing over every aspect of training/prep and doesn't even think about it all that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I'm fairly sure he will be at the Jesmond Dene Hotel, it seemed like Staveleys preferred lodging. There is a good chance that Mehrdad and Staveley are there with him. I don't think our new owners have a permenant house up here yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, reefatoon said: after reading that, I’m shocked Bruce didn’t “test positive” every week. We'd be singing about Europe if he had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, STM said: I'm fairly sure he will be at the Jesmond Dene Hotel, it seemed like Staveleys preferred lodging. There is a good chance that Mehrdad and Staveley are there with him. I don't think our new owners have a permenant house up here yet. I'm sure I've read the words 'Quayside hotel' at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Feeling sorry for Eddie right now. Being stuck in a hotel room for 10 days must be a nightmare. It's okay being stuck in your own home, but a hotel room? I've done it twice this year alone due to Covid, getting stuck in Heathrow quarantine jail. It wasn't that bad. 10 days of wanking, drinking and playing video games. Maybe Howe has a slightly higher work ethic though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Not at the press conference today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Not at the press conference today. Work shy cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Abra Dubravka said: Agreed, arm round the shoulder was used more turn of phrase on my part there. Howe will no doubt, like you say demanding performances and application from him. Hopefully it does click for him, not many players in the league have the technique in passing range he does, but just think it's come 3/4 years too late for him. He looked finally what we always thought under Rafa 17/18, playing in a two, but he let himself slide again. Years on now, he's physically gone I think, and has never in his career had any sense positionally in defensive transition. Any side in league should be looking at isolating that space behind him, and be running at our defence. Countless goals have come that route under Bruce, that will always be a weakness even under Howe He's better than what we ever saw him with Bruce and Bruceball, but it does speak to him and many other players they have it within themselves to be that consistently shit for over 3 season. Personally hope that Howe is just trying to get a song out of him for the next few months as that is what we need. Bollocks to his long term usefulness, we need results now and if pushing Shelvey gets better performances for a few months then great. Still needs to be binned as soon as we can get a half decent replacement. He's a throwback to our former era of adequacy rather than ambition. Onwards and upwards and I'm sure we'll see Shelvey at Turf Moor next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, tom1988 said: Personally hope that Howe is just trying to get a song out of him for the next few months as that is what we need. Bollocks to his long term usefulness, we need results now and if pushing Shelvey gets better performances for a few months then great. Still needs to be binned as soon as we can get a half decent replacement. He's a throwback to our former era of inadequacy rather than ambition. Onwards and upwards and I'm sure we'll see Shelvey at Turf Moor next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest HTT II Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, nbthree3 said: Get in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Venkman Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Nice little boost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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