The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 21/07/2023 at 11:32, Tiresias said: I think the challenge is going to be a lot more teams are going to drop deep against us this season. The majority of the time I think the starting 11 will stay 4-3-3 as before, but now he has more options accross forward line (and maybe more to come) so that may get varied. I do think we are going to see Isak more than Wilson, I don't think Isak will return to being shunted out wide, but if Wilson keeps up his form who knows, the competition seems to bring out the best in both of them. Against teams that will sit deep I wonder if Howe will ever feel he can give up the security of a 3 man midfield and play isak and wilson together or something? Will be interesting. We haven’t catered for that at all in the transfer market imo. I agree the move then is Isak behind Wilson in a 4231 type thing. If one of them is injured, perhaps Gordon combines with the other but if it’s Isak out you lose a lot of guile. I personally think the team lacks guile. We’re like a pure sledgehammer. The best teams have more locksmiths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, Robbo2 said: Ryder appearance about 3/4 of the way through, can barely string a sentence together He often just makes a statement without offering a question. They then have to work out what they think he actually meant to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: We haven’t catered for that at all in the transfer market imo. I agree the move then is Isak behind Wilson in a 4231 type thing. If one of them is injured, perhaps Gordon combines with the other but if it’s Isak out you lose a lot of guile. I personally think the team lacks guile. We’re like a pure sledgehammer. The best teams have more locksmiths. The pace we play at, plus our ability to win the ball high up the pitch means we have less need for guile compared to some other. Hopefully we strengthen all the areas needed so we can show it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, r0cafella said: The pace we play at, plus our ability to win the ball high up the pitch means we have less need for guile compared to some other. Hopefully we strengthen all the areas needed so we can show it. Yes I understand the idea. But it’s still the same tool for every problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I agree would love a technical playmaker for that but there is something to be said for knowing what you are good at and focusing on that, it's all very well signing such a player and expecting the whole team to be able to switch to a more possession style game for particular matches it won't happen. I saw a piece on how Howe did adapt the height of the press based on opposition, so to not press so high on teams he wanted to draw out before hitting in transition. The other thing though, when you look at how Guardiola used to do it with City before Haaland is stretch teams horizontally as much as possible with overloads, keeping wingers wide (Sterling used to do this why he seemed to assist loads with cut backs) creates space for players like Isak to run into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I agree would love a technical playmaker for that but there is something to be said for knowing what you are good at and focusing on that, it's all very well signing such a player and expecting the whole team to be able to switch to a more possession style game for particular matches it won't happen. I saw a piece on how Howe did adapt the height of the press based on opposition, so to not press so high on teams he wanted to draw out before hitting in transition. The other thing though, when you look at how Guardiola used to do it with City before Haaland is stretch teams horizontally as much as possible with overloads, keeping wingers wide (Sterling used to do this why he seemed to assist loads with cut backs) creates space for players like Isak to run into. I think we could have a more technical playmaking wide option (like that Szob lad) or 8 option (like Barella) without changing the team style. Much like we’ve incorporated Bruno and Isak. Peps had his wide players super wide for some time now. And he’s leaned into the dribbly dribbly types (Grealish, Mahrez) rather than those looking to run in behind and get close to the penalty box all the time - which is what we look to do with our inside forwards. I agree that Howe has tinkered the approach. He’s optimising the dominant approach. Edited July 26, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Robbo2 said: Ryder appearance about 3/4 of the way through, can barely string a sentence together Guy is a fucking fraud Anyone ever listen to his podcasts he sometimes puts on the chronicle. Heavy breathing, talks absolute waffle and sounds uninterested. They never go more than 10 minutes anarl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I am about to see another side of Eddie Howe...and I am gonna fucking love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Thread title change to Eddie “Fucking” Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Thread title change to Eddie “Sweary Mary” Howe. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said: Thread title change to Eddie “Fucking” Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Steve Bruce now claiming he recommended Eddie Howe to the new owners, along with Gerrard ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Steve Bruce now claiming he recommended Eddie Howe to the new owners, along with Gerrard ... He’s been claiming he put the idea of eddie forward for a while. Probably thinks he’s responsible for champs league qualification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: Steve Bruce now claiming he recommended Eddie Howe to the new owners, along with Gerrard ... He recommended the fella that sent Bournemouth down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, FLUMPO235 said: He’s been claiming he put the idea of eddie forward for a while. Probably thinks he’s responsible for champs league qualification The guy has serious issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: He recommended the fella that sent Bournemouth down? Exactly Guy is full of it man. Unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Says he recommended Corberan to the board when he get the sack at WBA as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: He’s been claiming he put the idea of eddie forward for a while. Probably thinks he’s responsible for champs league qualification Wants a cut of our CL money to buy a second villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Never ceases to amaze how utterly insincere that piece of shit is. I know he's gone and it's over and we've license to look back in amusement etc, but I struggle to tbh. I detest that he was associated with us and he just fosters negative emotions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 According to legend, Bruce controls Howe via telekinetic brain waves so really when you think about it, it's all Steve Bruce's success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Remember him being very pissed off at the media linking the job to other managers and him referring to Howe as "that fella who got Bournemouth relegated". Find it very difficult to believe that's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Hope no Saudi League teams give this oaf another chance to get one of his patented hit and run pay-offs. Then again, bacon is a lot harder to come by over here so that might put paid to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said: Remember him being very pissed off at the media linking the job to other managers and him referring to Howe as "that fella who got Bournemouth relegated". Find it very difficult to believe that's true. Check out the video in the General NUFC thread (I don't want to post it in here!)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 “I had to take the negative out, and turn it into a positive. I said to Amanda, - £8,000,000 from you. That gets all the negative out of the system. Then I had to look at how I could turn that into a positive. I put the money in my account + £8,000,000. It was at that moment I told her that Eddie was their man, and I even offered to take more negativity away from the club with a finders fee of another £8,000,000. All I cared about in the end was the club” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I like that we had Bruce so we can draw contrats to now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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