Joe_F Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Aye that's us done. Penfold will have his feet up smoking a cigar during deadline day. Thinking what a great job he's done. Twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 How have we not managed to ship Gayle to a champo team man? Add regards Joelinton being Mitro mkII time will tell but the difference appears to be pace at this stage. Maybe they learned their lesson on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneddy Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Lets not forget the signing of Ludwig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 How have we not managed to ship Gayle to a champo team man? Add regards Joelinton being Mitro mkII time will tell but the difference appears to be pace at this stage. Maybe they learned their lesson on that one. By all accounts Bruce wants to keep him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 How have we not managed to ship Gayle to a champo team man? Add regards Joelinton being Mitro mkII time will tell but the difference appears to be pace at this stage. Maybe they learned their lesson on that one. By all accounts Bruce wants to keep him Says everything about Bruce, but I mean he doesn't get a say surely. They'll just be asking for a daft price. He's goals down there ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Charlie Austin would be perfect. Used similarly to Giroud at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think Almiron is the key. He is so adept at creating space that he makes everyone else better. I just hope Brucie lets him play. I'm not convinced he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think Almiron is the key. He is so adept at creating space that he makes everyone else better. I just hope Brucie lets him play. I'm not convinced he will. Agreed. With the bit in bold particularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Bruce has been waxing lyrical about him in pre season but yeah obviously a concern in the long run. Would rather us do the 5-2-3 / 3-4-3 Rafa formation and bench Shelvey and allow Max/Joelinton/Almiron play up top together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Brummie, your first season in the Championship with Bruce, I worked in an around Aston probably 10 times that year and we often ended up in a local Villa fans pub once or twice on match days and the majority we come across/talked to seemed not just happy with Bruce, but thought the football was entertaining. I know you didn’t go up that year and Bruce was eventually peddled, but I know even mackems who said under Bruce the football was good in the main, did you lot actually play decent stuff under Bruce or did it just seem decent enough based on the level and the shite served up under MON? Or were people too blind to see it was shite? I think Newcastle’s football under Bruce will be more entertaining than the football played under Rafa, but in a more disorganised and obvious clueless caution to the wind type of way meaning more drubbings and more losses. I can see some of the more attacking players individually doing better under Bruce and someone like Shelvey being more important to the team. Shape, organisation, defensive solidity and being able to withstand pressure, nullify the opposition and every player off the ball coming together so the team itself performs better than the sum of its parts, however, follows Rafa out the door. Glad to see you posting Brummie and I for one am happy for you your club is back and looking very healthy indeed, on and off the pitch. I hope you have a good season ? Hi Thanks for the nice words In the early days, we were in the championship, we'd just emerged from a spell of - no exaggeration - 5 or 6 years of utterly horrifying bilge. Anything was an improvement. We were playing shit teams, so winning far more. For a while, the loan players he brought in started to click a little and things looked better. Bruce's problems really emerge when the team is up against it - he starts blaming all and sundry, everyone but himself - the fans, the players, pretty much anyone. He lost a lot of support when he started doing that. He also played the "some of them will never like me because I used to manage Blues" card, which is exactly what you're going to hear re Sunderland at some point. What you have to understand about him is that he doesn't really have a football ethos - he is from the MON brand of 'slap them on the back, get them pumped up and send them out there' management. That works to a certain degree, but no further. Beyond that, it really is up to the players to make things happen, because they'll get no tactical guidance from the manager. The best example of those limitations is what happened in the play off final against Fulham. The contrast between us (barely a shot on goal) and Fulham, a team set up to play in a certain, attacking style, was brutally clear. The other thing about Bruce is that he's a 'streaky' manager - he'll go on decent winning runs, then launch into a horrific run. I think that's partly because his 'gee the lads up' style tends to mean that his teams are confidence teams - when it is there, they'll do alright, when it's not, it's horrible viewing. There are worse managers out there, for sure, but he's very much one of the type where, if their team plays some nice stuff, it's mostly because they've stumbled across it themselves rather than through any way the manager has sent them out to play. Has he brought Steve Agnew with him? His arrival with us (he didn't join when Bruce did) coincided with a slight uplift in attacking menace. If he has come, that's a good sign, a positive. Thanks for that. To think 3 years ago we had Rafa and yous had Bruce and we were going up and yous were staying put. If you can stay up this season which I don’t see why yous can’t, yous will kick on well away from NUFC. Good luck ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 How have we not managed to ship Gayle to a champo team man? Add regards Joelinton being Mitro mkII time will tell but the difference appears to be pace at this stage. Maybe they learned their lesson on that one. By all accounts Bruce wants to keep him Says everything about Bruce, but I mean he doesn't get a say surely. They'll just be asking for a daft price. He's goals down there ffs. £15m was the asking price last I heard. I know he'll get goals down there, but no one's going to pay that for a 30yr old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think Almiron is the key. He is so adept at creating space that he makes everyone else better. I just hope Brucie lets him play. I'm not convinced he will. He needs to score as at the minute he cant hit a barn door he seems to be like Lee Clark once he gets into the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think Almiron is the key. He is so adept at creating space that he makes everyone else better. I just hope Brucie lets him play. I'm not convinced he will. He played a lovely reverse pass wide through to the wing back for the Joelinton goal vs Hibs He’ll need to score goals if he’s going to play off Joelinton as our second striker though. Big risk having him as our 1st choice second striker when he hasn’t even scored yet. More worried about goals than anything under Bruce. The “expansive football” will prove to be mythical just like it has been his whole managerial career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think having two of the midfielders pushing forward from the midfield three is going to contribute to goals and creating of chances this season. It's a factor I don't think is being accounted for. Think Longstaff is going to have a big season because of it. Provided he can keep fit. Ideally I'd like to see both he and Almiron in those positions ahead of Shelvey, in the midfield three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think having two of the midfielders pushing forward from the midfield three is going to contribute to goals and creating of chances this season. It's a factor I don't think is being accounted for. Think Longstaff is going to have a big season because of it. Provided he can keep fit. Ideally I'd like to see both he and Almiron in those positions ahead of Shelvey, in the midfield three. Agree. He was excellent in his old role but has the talent to flourish in that new role. However Hayden won’t offer us goals in that new role and it’s diffecult to be confident Almiron will get 10 goals as a our second striker. = Goal issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't think Hayden can actually sit though despite being considered our most defensive midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't think Hayden can actually sit though despite being considered our most defensive midfielder True. He’s actually the midfielder that ends up in the most offensive positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deuce Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Fucking schick of this club man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Load of Schick: https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/romas-schick-turns-down-newcastle-looks-for-borussia-dortmund-move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 The guy has sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yerdas El Savon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Wow. I honestly was not expecting that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't think Hayden can actually sit though despite being considered our most defensive midfielder True. He’s actually the midfielder that ends up in the most offensive positions. Shelvey has been playing in a deep quarterback role under Bruce. Longstaff and Hayden have been playing box to box they’ll both need to get goals in their roles next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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