Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Andy Carroll linked again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loki679 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Its a better approach to what we’re doing now tbf. If Carr was still here we’d probably have at least one good attacking player Not Rafa’s fault obviously as he’s not given enough money to get the players he actually wants agree. Carr got way to much stick, his hit rate for transfers was actually really good, and he was working under massive constraints. You can see how hard it is for Rafa, and then see what Carr managed to do with fuck all money, He got us Schteve too, remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Its a better approach to what we’re doing now tbf. If Carr was still here we’d probably have at least one good attacking player Not Rafa’s fault obviously as he’s not given enough money to get the players he actually wants agree. Carr got way to much stick, his hit rate for transfers was actually really good, and he was working under massive constraints. You can see how hard it is for Rafa, and then see what Carr managed to do with fuck all money, Carr identified some really good players, but we didn't sign his prime targets, some of whom have gone on to be world class players ( assuming our interest was genuine). Ashley has lost the club a fortune by refusing to sanction £20m signings like Plea, Aubemyang and Lacazette. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 We should try to swap Kenedy back for Hudson-Odoi on loan if he stays as Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Its a better approach to what we’re doing now tbf. If Carr was still here we’d probably have at least one good attacking player Not Rafa’s fault obviously as he’s not given enough money to get the players he actually wants agree. Carr got way to much stick, his hit rate for transfers was actually really good, and he was working under massive constraints. You can see how hard it is for Rafa, and then see what Carr managed to do with fuck all money, Carr identified some really good players, but we didn't sign his prime targets, some of whom have gone on to be world class players ( assuming our interest was genuine). Ashley has lost the club a fortune by refusing to sanction £20m signings like Plea, Aubemyang and Lacazette. Carr is severely underrated on here, we really miss him on the recruitment side imho, needed someone to REALLY back him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 We should try to swap Kenedy back for Hudson-Odoi on loan if he stays as Chelsea Loftus-cheek would be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Its a better approach to what we’re doing now tbf. If Carr was still here we’d probably have at least one good attacking player Not Rafa’s fault obviously as he’s not given enough money to get the players he actually wants agree. Carr got way to much stick, his hit rate for transfers was actually really good, and he was working under massive constraints. You can see how hard it is for Rafa, and then see what Carr managed to do with fuck all money, Carr identified some really good players, but we didn't sign his prime targets, some of whom have gone on to be world class players ( assuming our interest was genuine). Ashley has lost the club a fortune by refusing to sanction £20m signings like Plea, Aubemyang and Lacazette. Carr is severely underrated on here, we really miss him on the recruitment side imho, needed someone to REALLY back him. Carr was really good and was working well with the connections we had made with agents in France. However, when he was finally given the chance and choice to bring in a manager to work with the players he was bringing in, what did he do? He went and brought in Steve McLaren ... and that was the end of any chance we had of making the system work. When it really came down to it he messed up his biggest recruitment decision, which was picking his own manager. If he had got that remotely right, we would have been in a much better situation right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 You could just not give your scout the decision to choose your manager like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yeah that was really fucked up, though I'm thinking it was more nepotism than bad judgement as SM was his friend wasn't he? Still a big fuck up though. Yes, it clearly was, and in a way that makes it even worse. He would have had a good knowledge of all the French managers or those that had done well in that league with French players. it was unacceptable for him to then go and bring in McLaren. It has killed us. You only have to look at someone like Puel, who didn't even come in from a top team in France, to see what could have been. It was an incredibly unfortunate decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 You could just not give your scout the decision to choose your manager like Carr was really more of the head of recruitment, so it was closer to a DOF role. I don't think it was a bad call asking him to choose his manager. Choose the man you think can best manage the types of players you are bringing in. I think that's fair enough. Instead the joker went and brought in his friend, which is just criminal. Ideally someone more senior at the club should have had him justifying that choice, which clearly wasn't the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 You could just not give your scout the decision to choose your manager like Carr was really more of the head of recruitment, so it was closer to a DOF role. I don't think it was a bad call asking him to choose his manager. Choose the man you think can best manage the types of players you are bringing in. I think that's fair enough. Instead the joker went and brought in his friend, which is just criminal. Ideally someone more senior at the club should have had him justifying that choice, which clearly wasn't the case. Tbf it's not terribly difficult to justify bringing in the former England manager, who then went on to win the league with Twente in the Netherlands. You either accept his choice or decline it, asking him to justify it is silly because that indicates you can be convinced, and he could make a strong argument if you let him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 If we're talking about an unknown manager, sure, try to convince me what he might bring. But with McClaren we're talking about a very known quantity, good and bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yes, well I mentioned that only because I felt it wasn't really a choice that could be justified, but perhaps you are right, and so it should have been flatly declined really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 We should try to swap Kenedy back for Hudson-Odoi on loan if he stays as Chelsea Loftus-cheek would be better. Went off inj today. Not sure how serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yes, well I mentioned that only because I felt it wasn't really a choice that could be justified, but perhaps you are right, and so it should have been flatly declined really. Yeah, I was probably being overly pedantic. I think we're probably all just worn out and at the end of our collective tethers right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Linked with a loan move for Marseille’s N’jie. I still occasionally watch the French league highlights and he’s absolutely awful. Last I saw he couldn’t get into their side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Linked with a loan move for Marseille’s N’jie. I still occasionally watch the French league highlights and he’s absolutely awful. Last I saw he couldn’t get into their side. This could happen then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Timo Werner linked with a move to England, please sell Ashley as this is one player I’d love here. Liverpool were strongly linked a few months ago. They need another goal scorer outside of Salah so it makes sense. Do they? doesn't seem like they struggle to score at all. If you can point to anything that they need ( it's minor because they are great team) better CB depth and probably need to bleed Fabinho and Keita into the team more as eventually you probably need to move on from Milner and Henderson as there's probably a ceiling there. But goalscoring? doesn't seem like an issue to me. 3 biggest weaknesses of Liverpool for me 1. Potential over reliance on VVD at the back. Been a longtime since i've seen them play without him 2. Over reliance on Salah. If Salah missed 10 games, they would drop points. Sturridge is fine off the bench but couldn't step in for any significant time imo. 3. Lack of guile in midfield. Think this will only be an issue in the CL and if Salah isn't playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Fucking Woolworths bargain bin shopping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Good player from the little I've seen of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 He has another option, so it doesn’t look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 We wouldn't dare be the only club in for a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 After the dismal 1-1 draw against Blackburn on FA Cup third round day, Benitez again refused to answer questions on transfers. This time he was specifically asked if there had been a bid for Nice striker Mario Balotelli turned down, he replied: “I said before that I won’t talk about the transfer window, but you know, like me, what could be the answer.” So that's "have we fuck" then Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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