AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Criminal to lose him as the club stands right now. Through the lens of post takeover, it shouldn’t matter. Either way I would much rather keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Zombie club loses player, management does nothing, Bruce knows hes gone soon so just let's a great young geordie leave, aye he loves the club alright, his dad used to support us ya knaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 £30k makes him Udinese’s highest paid player. Compensation for out of contract players is apparently cheaper to foreign clubs. Makes me think even more that he’ll be parked there to go straight on loan to Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If the takeover goes through and the investment into the club is as expected he won’t get many games for us imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 He absolutely should be staying, there's plenty other young English players who've played less games who will be on more than £15k/week at other clubs, it's a joke of an offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Think he will stay. Suspect this has got leaked right now by someone trying to expedite the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Think he will stay. Suspect this has got leaked right now by someone trying to expedite the takeover Sure it did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Think he will stay. Suspect this has got leaked right now by someone trying to expedite the takeover Oh no! Young starlet.. *checks notes* Matthew Longstaff is about to leave them for Udinese if we don't get this sorted. It's time to get serious! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Think he will stay. Suspect this has got leaked right now by someone trying to expedite the takeover More likely agent driven having told him that there are Championship and League 1 players being paid significantly more than he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Aye we offered him like 15k a week which is peanuts. He's played 6 PL games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 He’s noted enough anyway for a post takeover NUFC, I mean Grealish will struggle to get regular games when he comes... In all seriousness, he’s too good for Ashley/Bruce’s NUFC and more and more British players should go abroad to brooding their experiences. Good luck to the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. Yeah I don't really get why people rate him so highly either, but I guess under the current regime, giving away homegrown talent isn't really sensible. He's a Watford type player, never going to be part of the big 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Letting him go is quite obviously ridiculous for several reasons. Nufc.com summed it up perfectly: Whether the takeover paralysis has played any part in Matty's unfolding contract situation is unclear, but it does look to be the same muddled thinking that has made our recruitment policy so inconsistent. The failure of our Academy to develop young English talent meant that we once bought in Jermaine Jenas and Darren Ambrose - and a continuation of that issue resulted in our taking a punt on Jacob Murphy. Through the Academy then comes Matty, who quickly moves up to the reserve side and more than holds his own, before jumping straight into the Premier League without a loan move to a smaller club. Rather than fatten up the golden goose to make a killing in a couple of years though, it seems that we lack the belief, desire or talent to actually fashion our raw material into something more valuable. Almost inevitably we'll spend money on a replacement signing and pay him more, but get less value for money and end up recouping a fraction of the outlay. Conversely, the extra benefit of having a hometown player in the side rather than some imported mercenary has always been persuasive for us, but that hardly came to pass with Killingworth's own Jack Colback did it? Local isn't always better, but potential is beyond geography. In terms of a knock-on effect on younger players joining the Academy or staying, Matty's likely loss arguably makes the argument to join United stronger: unlike previous times, there is a route to senior football from Little Benton - it's just not the Newcastle first team.... If you're just a breeding ground for other clubs though, what's the point in funding an Academy? Better then just to take other people's players - or borrow them. Like much of what has happened at Newcastle since 2007, it's difficult to see what the point is - another reason that we desperately need a change of ownership, regardless of the merits or otherwise of the Saudis. Matty might still leave under a different administration, but you'd like to that it was a measured decision and part of a coherent strategy. There's precious little evidence of that currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. I don't think Matty or Sean will be superstars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. I don't think Matty or Sean will be superstars. So we should let them go for free? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. I don't think Matty or Sean will be superstars. Doesn't matter, you still need squad players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. We're using Joelinton as a barometer? He's scored once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Sean looked class under Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. We're using Joelinton as a barometer? He's scored once. I know, but it’s all we’ve currently got to go off. But the entire squad isn’t doing much better if he ties in 2nd with only a handful of games. His minutes to goals (Goals against top opposition) is probably the best we’ve got and we’re chucking him out on a free and people are happy enough because he won’t reach Messi levels anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. I don't think Matty or Sean will be superstars. So we should let them go for free? Not bothered. We've offered Matty 15k p/w, he's only started 6 league games. If someone's willing to pay double that then fair play to him if he can get it. He looks decent but that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 We've signed better midfielders than him under Ashley. At 19/20 and scoring goals? Twice as many as our record signing, joint 2nd top goal scorer. (god it’s tragic) It’s not player now I’m worried about losing for free, it’s what he becomes in the future. We also can’t go out and buy 24 foreign superstars. We need home and grub grown players in the squad. It could be years before we get anything as good as the longstaffs coming through. Come on now. He's scored 2 goals Personally, I don't think £15K a week is a joke, thought it might be a tad higher at £20K a week, but certainly don't think it's a disgraceful offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If someone is preparing to offer £30k, the club has to bid the same to keep him like, can’t stay out of loyalty alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If someone is preparing to offer £30k, the club has to bid the same to keep him like, can’t stay out of loyalty alone. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the loyalty would allow them to meet somewhere in the middle. But that's this club all over; they either threw the £15k offer down and said take or leave it or he had to fight just to get them up to that amount. Considering how long these 'talks' have rumbled on I'm sure that compromise could've been reached long before the £30k offer even came in to tempt him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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