Guest HTT II Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Lewis is horseshit Everyone thinks he can in and do a job , he was woeful under Bruce and did she a little improvement under Howe before getting injured but he is not the answer Too negative , loves to go backwards with the ball , which is bizarre as he has pace ? Watch him closely , he is pony Aye, but he’s still our best LB, that’s the state we are in… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Problem with just having Lewis too is that if we go 3 at the back we sort of have to play Richie as there's no way Lewis is going to be an effective wingback. I know Richie isn't either but that's the point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Joelinton in a midfield 2 will never be used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Aye that's the point with 4 at the back we're clunky infront of it unless we bring in atleast another 2 midfielders. Edited January 15, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Also Joelinton probably could play in a midfoeld 2 like. He's looked best as a physically imposing ball winning midfielder so it's not like he needs protecting. The problem with him in a midfield 2, especially combined with our wingers, is that it still leaves us without any real goals or creativity, even more so if the other midfielder we bring in is a CDM (which they should be imo). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Tripple post wanker like but Joelinton might be effective as our deepest midfielder I just don't think we should risk our season on it. It's something we could possibly look into though in the future. Along with his obvious defensive attributes he has decent ability on the ball to get out of tight areas in the middle of the pitch and can pick out a pass. He only really turns to shite when he gets 25 yards from goal. He might be alergic to steel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) I think Joelinton is best as a wide central midfielder in a 3 who operates in the half spaces; not as a defensive mid. You want to make use of his pressing higher up the pitch so he can win the ball in more dangerous areas, I think. I just wish he'd get in the box and try to score more. We need someone to play the deeper role. Shelvey does not offer any protection at all. He has definitely been running around more recently but he has to because he's never in position. I suppose Kamara would be ideal for this from what I've heard. Edited January 15, 2022 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, xLiaaamx said: Joelinton in a midfield 2 will never be used. I think people grossly underestimate how much of a specialist position it is. There’s a reason centre backs who are nominally pegged as being able to play defensive mid are usually absolutely shit when they do have to step in. Joe’s been a revelation in midfield but he’d be shit in a 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Big Joe has played CM about 4-5 times hasn’t he and it’s always been in a 3? Seemed the tactic against Man U, in the first half at least. Was isolate the full back, win second balls and quickly release it to ASM on the left. He did play wider, you’re right. He looked poor against Cambridge. In a game where they had more men around the ball, we had more possession and we had to try and force something. Not sure I’d like to see him in a midfield 2. Just can’t see it happening. The sample size seems a bit small, anyway. He might revert to being utter shite soon enough, for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Joe's a mezzala in a flat 3 now. Let's not fuck it up when he's finally found some form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Not sure how we can claim where Joelinton can or cannot play like given he was a forward a few months ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Lucas Torreira would be a shrewd signing. Young, bit of a cunt, mobile, has played PL. He’d be a terrific signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Southampton trying to sign Broja permanently, we should be all over that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: So what do people believe the fewest number of players we could bring in this window to 'guarentee' we stay up? A proper LWB and a CDM gives us the flexibility to go 3 at the back and not be reliant on Fraser and Murphy, now we've got Wood we can play ASM up top with him and Wilson, or behind them. Obviously an extra CB would be grand as well but I don't think it's as necessary as the other 2 positions. With 4 at the back we look very clunky no matter which way we line up ahead of them without atleast 2 new midfielders, 3 if we're only playing 1 up top? I think we need a minimum of 4 signings, 2 of which we've already got, ideally about 6-7 tbh. An understudy striker, LB, 2 CB's and a CM. As for 3 at the back, our current squad is more suited to that IMO, yet Howe still insists on a back 4. So I don't see why he would buy players specifically for a formation he doesn't use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If the Gosens links are accurate then it suggests Howe wants to move to a back 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: If the Gosens links are accurate then it suggests Howe wants to move to a back 5 Honestly I seriously doubt it. He could have done it with the players we've got already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Gosens would be great but I'd be amazed if we got him like. You're probably right too Tron. We're probably set out to play 5 at the back more than 4 now, like you say, but he does seem to prefer a flat back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Gosens would be great but I'd be amazed if we got him like. You're probably right too Tron. We're probably set out to play 5 at the back more than 4 now, like you say, but he does seem to prefer a flat back 4. Which is fair enough tbh, the best sides do tend to play a back 4 in the Premier, but they have the players to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Is Broja realistic for the summer if he’s not getting a look in at Chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: Is Broja realistic for the summer if he’s not getting a look in at Chelsea? There’s no way they will sell him right now, but I could see another loan deal on offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: Is Broja realistic for the summer if he’s not getting a look in at Chelsea? https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17406722/chelsea-broja-man-city-southampton-transfer/amp/ sounds like he’s pretty settled in Southampton, if Chelsea ever let him leave permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Used to be Southampton, but now Chelsea and Man City have the best academies in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, LRD said: Used to be Southampton, but now Chelsea and Man City have the best academies in the country. £¥€$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Looks like Liverpool are willing to sell Joe Gomez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, joeyt said: Looks like Liverpool are willing to sell Joe Gomez Has he played much after his injury? I wonder if he is struggling a bit, as I can hardly remember seeing him play this season. Looked rapid and quality for quite a while next to VVD. But did seem like without him he, he was a bit more accident prone and understandably didn't look quite as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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