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Sven Botman back late December/early January 'at the earliest' (Howe)


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So we were told he's keen, X gets the deal done. We Bid slightly below X + add-ons. They say no, we so we bid X + add-ons (to our liking). They then decide it needs to be more, structure not right and oh hey we're not selling him anymore. Lille can fuck off. 

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1 hour ago, STM said:

Disagree entirely in DM being priority this window.

 

Our deficiencies aren't creating chances, nor are they conceding bundles of chances. So with that I'd say we have a pretty decent control of games, in terms of possession and attacking territory. Which is light years from where we were under Bruce.

 

Our problems are at either end of the pitch. When we do concede chances they are normally fatal because they arise from defenders making howlers. When do get the ball into decent areas up front we have to rely in Wilson (who was woefully our of form) or ASM who borders between genius and greediness.

 

We NEED a defender and a striker. Another defender, a left back and a centre midfielder should follow that.

 

HEAD, NAIL, HIT

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Just now, Kanji said:

So we were told he's keen, X gets the deal done. We Bid slightly below X + add-ons. They say no, we so we bid X + add-ons (to our liking). They then decide it needs to be more, structure not right and oh hey we're not selling him anymore. Lille can fuck off. 

Why not just bid X from the start and not mess them about as if Lee Charnley is negotiating the deal?

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1 minute ago, Yelevats said:

Why not just bid X from the start and not mess them about as if Lee Charnley is negotiating the deal?

 

IDK man, if this was the decision they made over the course of 1 week it doesn't sound like they were ever willing sellers tbh. 

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Also bid-ask spreads happen in negotiations all the time - they clearly don't want to sell him and didn't even believe in their own valuations as they kept changing. If we bid X the first time we have no fucking clue it would have been accepted or not. 

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Becoming a complete shit show. 1 signing in a 3rd of the window clearly isn't enough when you're full strength team can't even match a league one team. Fuck squad harmony in terms of wages. These cunts don't deserve what they are on anyway. Let someone come in who can actually do the job as this lot have downed tools. Parasites.

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We've clearly sounded Botman out for a while, it's been reported pre-window by Orenstein and the Athletic and also likely that pre-window we learned that he'd be keen to join and we were waiting for Lille to be open to negotiate a sale. If it was as easy as negotiating everything to go through on Jan 1 then deals would happen like that all the time - but they don't. Because some teams literally don't need the money, want the money, want to sell, care to sell, or will try and squeeze out every last penny and sell the player on deadline day. You can't acquire anything that isn't truly for sale and there clearly is no desperation for that from Lille. 

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No way they get anything near that offer in the summer. Only other option is AC Milan who’ll spend 25m tops imo.

 

We’ve been bit naive here tbh, should have clocked on earlier that these lot were being difficult and moved on. 

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