More transfer rumours

[Nine]

4 minutes ago, BoSelecta said:

I think they will go big on all signings, minimal personnel changes (4-5) while maximising quality. Remember Mehrdad said in the Athletic interview earlier in the season the only limit on spending would be FFP.
 

Eddie doesn’t want to revolutionise the squad in order to carry the team spirit and ethos he’s built into next season. Good characters will be prioritised and they’ll spend whatever needs to be spent. Could easily see £200m. 4-5 world class signings in priority areas, our current starters in those positions drop to rotation/back up. The deadwood from the squad will be cut away. We will recruit at the very top end and everything else shifts down a level beneath them.

 

That’s the way I see them doing it anyway.

The problem isnt really transfer fees, its that we must progress carefully with wage structure. Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week.

[Tiresias]

Dont want coutinho, too hot and cold not going to press high, unless he's directly replacing ASM (he would on form be an upgrade) theres no point having both of them in the squad. I would want a fairly direct winger who can play central as well hard working, not unlike Bowen at west ham (though we wont get him(

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, BoSelecta said:

I think they will go big on all signings, minimal personnel changes (4-5) while maximising quality. Remember Mehrdad said in the Athletic interview earlier in the season the only limit on spending would be FFP.
 

Eddie doesn’t want to revolutionise the squad in order to carry the team spirit and ethos he’s built into next season. Good characters will be prioritised and they’ll spend whatever needs to be spent. Could easily see £200m. 4-5 world class signings in priority areas, our current starters in those positions drop to rotation/back up. The deadwood from the squad will be cut away. We will recruit at the very top end and everything else shifts down a level beneath them.

 

That’s the way I see them doing it anyway.

 

Ideal world stuff. I think there are few decent free players (Kamara, Eriksen, Tarkowski, Grillitsch, Lingard, Belotti & Denayer) they'll go for as well. I'd expect a couple of them landing here. 

 

I see the fees for Abrahams (£50m) and Osimhen (£67m) have been set, along with Nunez (£67m) there are a few top strikers up for grabs. We're out of the running for Nunez, but Abrahams at £50m is the one i'd go for.

[Ikon]

Not sure how you can say “forget players over 120k”.  It’s based on nothing but your own theory and thoughts to be honest. I don’t see us spending on 400k/week players no. 

[Dokko]

5 minutes ago, Nine said:

The problem isnt really transfer fees, its that we must progress carefully with wage structure. Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week.

 

Think its the other way round. We've room and new deals (within reason that don't exist at all right now) will cover an increase. We have so many players on £50k or so who add nothing. We shift a few off the books and we open up even more room.

 

We'll be after £100-150kpw players, it's what you pay now for quality and that is what matters to us to move forward. 

[Nine]

14 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Not sure how you can say “forget players over 120k”.  It’s based on nothing but your own theory and thoughts to be honest. I don’t see us spending on 400k/week players no. 

Howe has been very carefully creating a good feeling of unity around the dressing room since he came in, I cant remember a team feeling this united before. Number one way to fuck that up? Bring in new players on 200k a week.

 

The current core of our squad earn less than 70/80k pw, we might see a player or two brought in on around 120k pw but expect more than that and you're dreaming. 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Nine

[Armchair Pundit]

Villa can keep Coutinho, stupid cost for a player who's not consistent enough and to be honest, we can get better and younger.

[Dokko]

8 minutes ago, Nine said:

Howe has been very carefully creating a good feeling of unity around the dressing room since he came in, I cant remember a team feeling this united before. Number one way to fuck that up? Bring in new players with big egos on 200k a week.

 

The current core of our squad earn less than 70/80k pw, we might see a player or two brought in on around 120k pw but expect more than that and you're dreaming. 

 

 

 

 

It's up to the current players to show they are worth the same. We have players on peanuts and some already on £100k+. You think Longstaff is going to demand Bruno's wages? We have loads of players not far off the money you are talking. Bruno, Wilson, Wood, ASM, Almiron, Trippier, Joelinton, Fraser & Shelvey (Jonjo may have took a paycut when he re-signed) are all on £70k+. You think they are going to get upset if we bring in a proven 30 goals a season striker or a 20+ winger and they get £120-150k and demand the same or they'll leave? I suppose it makes it easy to remove those who think they are better than they are. We're not under paying anyone in our squad, in fact most have been overpaid for years.

 

Players only get upset when you bring in someone equal to them and they get paid so much more. You're much more likely to upset players bringing in a Hendricks on £50kpw, simply getting it as he's on a free yet the players at the same level as him are on a third of that. That's when you disrupt the balance & harmony. Pay for quality, no one cares as the team moves forward, wins more games and the players all around improve, or allow a few greedy twats hold back the squad because they think they are better than they are. If so, Howe has got it wrong and its not the characters he believes he has.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Dokko

[WillingtonMag]

Think we'll spend 175 million in the summer and leave 25 million for an emergency reinforcement in Jan.

[BoSelecta]

23 minutes ago, Nine said:

The problem isnt really transfer fees, its that we must progress carefully with wage structure. Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week.

Bruno will perhaps be the benchmark. Young, well scouted & sold the vision of the club. 3 or 4 in that mould plus a bit more of a splurge on the striker. I agree they won’t blow the wage structure out of the water but I’d be surprised if Bruno is still the top earner by the start of the 22/23 season.

 

Edit. Botman is a perfect example. Currently on £15k a week.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by BoSelecta

[Whitley mag]

Inter have been whoring themselves for some of PIF’s money for a while, how about we oblige and take Martinez off their hands. Good age and another 3 goals this week against Milan and Roma. 

[Nine]

5 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

It's up to the current players to show they are worth the same. We have players on peanuts and some already on £100k+. You think Longstaff is going to demand Bruno's wages? We have loads of players not far off the money you are talking. Bruno, Wilson, Wood, ASM, Almiron, Trippier, Joelinton, Fraser & Shelvey (Jonjo may have took a paycut when he re-signed) are all on £70k+. You think they are going to get upset if we bring in a proven 30 goals a season striker or a 20+ winger and they get £120-150k and demand the same or they'll leave? I suppose it makes it easy to remove those who think they are better than they are. We're not under paying anyone in our squad, in fact most have been overpaid for years.

Just doesnt work like that lol, dressing rooms full of pro football players are a bit more complicated than that. Our wage structure will slowly progress upwards over a number of seasons, you dont just bring in players on 200k+ a week when your current core of players dont even earn half of that.. a few brought in on around 100k this summer then next summer moving upwards into the mid 100ks and so on. We are years out from being able to offer top players top wages and thats just the way it is, it will all progress as organically as it can with the amounts of money involved.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Nine

[Dokko]

Just now, Nine said:

Just doesnt work like that lol, dressing rooms full of pro football players are a bit more complicated than that. Our wage structure will slowly progress upwards over a number of seasons, you dont just bring in players on 200k+ a week when your current core of players dont even earn half of that.. a few brought in on around 100k this summer then next summer moving upwards into the mid 100ks and so on. 

 

 

 

 

You're moving goalposts as you know you're wrong. You said:  Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week. Now its £200k+

[Keegans Export]

I'd look at Boubacar Kamara. Supposedly Villa have been watching him - if they've got a chance to sign him then so do we. I think we made enquiries in January.

 

A top quality DM would allow Bruno more freedom to push forward against the weaker sides & the two could play deeper together against stronger opponents. 

[Nine]

1 minute ago, Dokko said:

 

You're moving goalposts as you know you're wrong. You said:  Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week. Now its £200k+

What? Thats exactly what I mean, people have mentioned Coutinho on the last page and he would be on around that number of 200k. Its an example. Around 120k will be our limit this summer.

 

Its not me that is wrong 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Nine

[Guybrush]

5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Inter have been whoring themselves for some of PIF’s money for a while, how about we oblige and take Martinez off their hands. Good age and another 3 goals this week against Milan and Roma. 

On 19/04/2022 at 23:49, Guybrush said:

 

How I feel in this thread 

 

[Dokko]

3 minutes ago, Nine said:

What? Thats exactly what I mean, people have mentioned Coutinho on the last page and he would be on around that number of 200k. Its an example. Around 120k will be our limit this summer.

 

Its not me that is wrong 

 

 

 

 

No one wants Coutinho, the one person who said his name also followed up with its hugely unrealistic. Most have said quality and expecting 3-5 £100-150k players and you came steaming in stating:  Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week.

 

Some macktracking which RTG would be impressed with. 

 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Dokko

[STM]

I just think that we have suddenly become one of the most attractive clubs in world football.

 

Apart from the top 6, who's players wages will make them unattractive to us, and perhaps West Ham, I just fancy us to be able to unsettle any player from any club in the summer.

 

It's going to be incredibly difficult for the likes of Brighton, Leeds and Southampton to fend us off.

 

Most of our business will be done overseas, but I expect us to sign at least one big hitter from the PL, Phillips or Toney being the obvious names.

[Nine]

3 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

No one wants Coutinho, the one person who said his name also followed up with its hugely unrealistic. Most have said quality and expecting 3-5 £100-150k players and you came steaming in stating:  Forget about players that would be on anywhere over 120k a week.

 

 

And thats exactly what I said after that sentence that you quoted - 'a few brought in on around 100k this summer then next summer moving upwards into the mid 100ks and so on'. Are you intentionally being ignorant? 

 

I mentioned 200k as a round number that players like Countinho and the like would be on, to expect players on these wages is crazy. Im sorry if you think thats the route we'll take but its not. You seem flustered, its okay. 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Nine

[Dokko]

Just now, Nine said:

And thats exactly what I said after that sentence that you quoted - 'a few brought in on around 100k this summer then next summer moving upwards into the mid 100ks and so on'. Are you intentionally being ignorant? 

 

I mentioned 200k as a round number that players like Countinho and the like would be on, to expect players on these wages is crazy. Im sorry if you think thats the route we'll take but its not.

 

Gleefully obtuse and ferocious with it. 

[Nine]

Just now, Dokko said:

 

Gleefully obtuse and ferocious with it. 

 

Indeed you are 

[nufc123]

31 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Ideal world stuff. I think there are few decent free players (Kamara, Eriksen, Tarkowski, Grillitsch, Lingard, Belotti & Denayer) they'll go for as well. I'd expect a couple of them landing here. 

 

I see the fees for Abrahams (£50m) and Osimhen (£67m) have been set, along with Nunez (£67m) there are a few top strikers up for grabs. We're out of the running for Nunez, but Abrahams at £50m is the one i'd go for.

Is there really one media/journalist who has linked us to Abraham or is it just talk in here?

[STM]

Yeah we won't be jumping from 100k to 200k in one swoop because then immediately Bruno is going to want the same and rightly so.

[Nine]

1 minute ago, STM said:

Yeah we won't be jumping from 100k to 200k in one swoop because then immediately Bruno is going to want the same and rightly so.

Ah, someone who understands.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Nine

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, STM said:

Yeah we won't be jumping from 100k to 200k in one swoop because then immediately Bruno is going to want the same and rightly so.

 

£200k isn't £120k though. That's his follow up when he realised he was talking shit.