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The question isn't about whether Paqueta is good enough. Not only has the guy got skills but he's also a bit of a unit.

 

The real question is two fold: 1. Do we see Bruno as a DM or a CM? 2. If we don't see Bruno as a DM, do we prioritise that position over a CM/AM like Paqueta?

 

Or, we could do as I suggested; try to sign Paqueta and see if there is someone short term who we could sign to do a job for a couple of years in defensive midfield.

 

Then the question begs itself, if we have Bruno and Shelvey who can play the DM role, do we need to prioritise that position at all next season?

 

 

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We have shored up the defence, even without Trippier we are half decent and we almost certain to sign at least one CB in the summer.

 

So with that in mind and our chronic lack of goals/creativity at times, I'd certainly think I'd rather stick with Bruno and Shelvey as our DM options and go after Paqueta who will give us a spark.

 

Interesting to see what Howe thinks.

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I think Shelvey has been great since Howe came in but Bruno is different gravy and even playing as cdm would offer more going forward and would still chip in with a few goals. 

Big Joe gives him more licence to get forward when the situation arises and would drop in whereas Shelvey doesn't seem to feel confident and making any forward runs. 

Would still be nice to have more options and with injuries and fatigue we definitely need more creative players.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, STM said:

The question isn't about whether Paqueta is good enough. Not only has the guy got skills but he's also a bit of a unit.

 

The real question is two fold: 1. Do we see Bruno as a DM or a CM? 2. If we don't see Bruno as a DM, do we prioritise that position over a CM/AM like Paqueta?

 

Or, we could do as I suggested; try to sign Paqueta and see if there is someone short term who we could sign to do a job for a couple of years in defensive midfield.

 

Then the question begs itself, if we have Bruno and Shelvey who can play the DM role, do we need to prioritise that position at all next season?

 

 

 

Why can we not sign a Paqueta type as well as a DM type to both complement Bruno? Why only a short term signing? The club has been strongly linked to the likes of Haidara, Kamara, Phillips in the past, as well as the more attacking players. I think they’re well aware that we need to strengthen both positions. 

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1 minute ago, Manxst said:

Why can we not sign a Paqueta type as well as a DM type to both complement Bruno? Why only a short term signing? The club has been strongly linked to the likes of Haidara, Kamara, Phillips in the past, as well as the more attacking players. I think they’re well aware that we need to strengthen both positions. 

Someone like Bissouma maybe?

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Just now, Manxst said:

Why can we not sign a Paqueta type as well as a DM type to both complement Bruno? Why only a short term signing? The club has been strongly linked to the likes of Haidara, Kamara, Phillips in the past, as well as the more attacking players. I think they’re well aware that we need to strengthen both positions. 

We can do both but I'm of the belief that we won't outlay the best part of 70m on two CMs this summer, when we already have 5.

 

Again, I'd be delighted to see us show those levels of investment but given we NEED a CF a RW and a CB, who will all cost a canny amount, I can't see it.

 

My short term thing, was in reference to a Trippier type move.

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1 minute ago, STM said:

We can do both but I'm of the belief that we won't outlay the best part of 70m on two CMs this summer, when we already have 5.

 

Again, I'd be delighted to see us show those levels of investment but given we NEED a CF a RW and a CB, who will all cost a canny amount, I can't see it.

 

My short term thing, was in reference to a Trippier type move.

I think they will utilise the free transfer market for at least one of them to save that outlay- don’t know if Kamara has signed for anyone (know he’s linked with Atletico I think?) but he’d be ideal, or someone in the same situation. Plus Longstaff contract is still up this summer, no? 

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2 minutes ago, Manxst said:

I think they will utilise the free transfer market for at least one of them to save that outlay- don’t know if Kamara has signed for anyone (know he’s linked with Atletico I think?) but he’d be ideal, or someone in the same situation. Plus Longstaff contract is still up this summer, no? 

 

Yeah I was thinking Eriksen as an option.

 

I'm certain that Longstaff will stay but if I was him I'd move on, he bound to get a decent contract at another PL club and first team football.

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We thinking stirker first as the absolute priority and depending who we get will then shape the rest of the window in terms of who they target ? I’m just thinking similar to January where is signing Bruno was more result of not getting our top CB targets.

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4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

We thinking stirker first as the absolute priority and depending who we get will then shape the rest of the window in terms of who they target ? I’m just thinking similar to January where is signing Bruno was more result of not getting our top CB targets.


If that’s the case it’s worked like a dream.

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7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

We thinking stirker first as the absolute priority and depending who we get will then shape the rest of the window in terms of who they target ? I’m just thinking similar to January where is signing Bruno was more result of not getting our top CB targets.

Was that the case? I was of the thinking that we probably thought Arsenal had the transfer sewn up and when we realised they were waiting until summer, we  immediately jumped in. I don’t see Bruno as having any correlation to the lack of Carlos/Botman etc. I don’t think we’d have gone for Burn if one of those transfers had come off. 

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Striker has to be priority.

 

We must be opportunistic too. I know plenty have scoffed at Tarkowski and Lingard on free transfers but don't be shocked if either of those happen, especially if it means being allowed to move a Murphy or Lascelles out of the door.

 

Also don't be shocked to see the odd 30 year old cone in, provided they are the right fit. This isn't MAs Newcastle where sell on value is the be all and end all. I don't think any of us would turn our noses up at another Trippier type signing.

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4 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Was that the case? I was of the thinking that we probably thought Arsenal had the transfer sewn up and when we realised they were waiting until summer, we  immediately jumped in. I don’t see Bruno as having any correlation to the lack of Carlos/Botman etc. I don’t think we’d have gone for Burn if one of those transfers had come off. 

 I think it was in the athletic piece just after the widow closed, something along the lines the main targets where Botman and Carlos and then a cheaper CM if those had came off. Once they where certain lille and Sevilla weren’t budging we went big for Bruno.

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5 minutes ago, STM said:

Striker has to be priority.

 

We must be opportunistic too. I know plenty have scoffed at Tarkowski and Lingard on free transfers but don't be shocked if either of those happen, especially if it means being allowed to move a Murphy or Lascelles out of the door.

 

Also don't be shocked to see the odd 30 year old cone in, provided they are the right fit. This isn't MAs Newcastle where sell on value is the be all and end all. I don't think any of us would turn our noses up at another Trippier type signing.

Tarkowski on a free for Lascelles would be a huge upgrade imo.

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"Sport Witness" (lol) claims that Newcastle will have scouts at the Leicester-Roma match to watch....Nicolo Zaniolo. That's a good link - young, attacking, right-sided yet can play as a forward or a midfielder. Either one of him or Tammy Abraham from Roma will do. ASM - Ivan Toney - Zaniolo as a front three will be tasty.

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15 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 I think it was in the athletic piece just after the widow closed, something along the lines the main targets where Botman and Carlos and then a cheaper CM if those had came off. Once they where certain lille and Sevilla weren’t budging we went big for Bruno.

Ah- hadn’t read that- thanks ?

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1 hour ago, HUGZ said:

I think Reims are shitting themselves they're not going to get a good fee for Ekitike now.

 

he's been out since Feb with a hamstring injury, but there's been a ton of noise, and he's been linked all over the place this week. reeks of a PR jobby.

Was thinking this myself. Im not sure on this Ekitike either..

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1 minute ago, Ikon said:

A fit Zaniolo would be a dreamy signing. Unfortunately he’s already had a couple of absolutely awful ligament injuries. Only a matter of time before next one? 

Like Callum Wilson. Don't need another part timer in the front line. Abraham on the other hand seems very robust.

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