macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: No. Not really. It’s based upon him having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF. EPL - EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees. That basically applies to almost all selling clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ikon said: Average Aye, lacks mobility and slows the game down, there is a reason Spurs want rid of him, if it’s true that is. We could do better shopping abroad easily for half the money or the same. Edited April 27, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Manxst said: Probably more of a ‘Levy gets what he wants or else the player doesn’t move’, like Kane, rather than ‘negotiating’ per se. Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 minute ago, macphisto said: That basically applies to almost all selling clubs. I don’t think it does. How much would Bruno have cost if he played for Arsenal? The fact we paid 25m for Chris Wood also illustrates my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. MA: How much do you want? Selling club: 20m MA: OK, here’s a quid! Selling club: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I don’t think it does. How much would Bruno have cost if he played for Arsenal? The fact we paid 25m for Chris Wood also illustrates my point. What point are you making? My original point was that Levy has an over inflated reputation for being a tough negotiator which is not backed up by a lot of evidence. "having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF"=Applies to most selling clubs, irrespective of the league. "EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees."=Applies to all English clubs, irrespective of the league. Your example of Chris Wood backs up my point even more as they're not one of the wealthier clubs and still received a high transfer fee. Are you saying we should not buy from any English clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, HTT II said: MA: How much do you want? Selling club: 20m MA: OK, here’s a quid! Selling club: And a SD Mug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just now, macphisto said: What point are you making? My original point was that Levy has an over inflated reputation for being a tough negotiator which is not backed up by a lot of evidence. "having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF"=Applies to most selling clubs, irrespective of the league. "EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees."=Applies to all English clubs, irrespective of the league. Your example of Chris Wood backs up my point even more as they're not one of the wealthier clubs and still received a high transfer fee. Are you saying we should not buy from any English clubs? Who cares about Levy’s reputation? It might be exaggerated but given he would have all the leverage I doubt we would get the player for 30m. And no, our strategy should be get the best players we possibly can regardless of where they are based. For my money, buying a DM who is good but no outstanding represents really bad value when we can get Kamara for free for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I'm not sure what Hojbjerg's role would be within our side. He doesn't have the mobility or intelligence to be an effective DM. He frequently doesn't track runners, plus he gets sidestepped and turned so easily. He doesn't have the passing range or general ability to be playing further up the pitch. All in all, just a bit of a nothing player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Who cares about Levy’s reputation? It might be exaggerated but given he would have all the leverage I doubt we would get the player for 30m. And no, our strategy should be get the best players we possibly can regardless of where they are based. For my money, buying a DM who is good but no outstanding represents really bad value when we can get Kamara for free for example. Cheers and I agree about getting the best players possible, no matter what league they play in. I suppose I care about Levy's reputation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Levy not wanting to sell, Ashley not wanting to buy…match made in heaven! ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Complete ambivalence is a strong negotiating position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Quote Newcastle United have made an offer to Juventus forward Paulo Dybala, according to Alfredo Pedulla. The well-known and well-respected journalist has reported that Newcastle are keen on signing Dybala on a free transfer in the summer of 2022 when his current contract at Juventus runs out. Allow me to dream! no idea who Pedulla is, apparently a well respected journalist. Let's see if he will accept 120k/week which we would never exceed..... We have been linked alot with him, but could also be to drum up the interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ikon said: Allow me to dream! no idea who Pedulla is, apparently a well respected journalist. Let's see if he will accept 120k/week which we would never exceed..... We have been linked alot with him, but could also be to drum up the interest. has a blue tick - that’ll do for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Bring Kyle Lafferty in a Paul McShane back at Man U role last season to help him settle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Dybala would be the godfather of all statement signings. It would blow Robinho out of the water and then some. I'd be shocked if it were happen, feels like we are 2 or so years away from a signing like that, just feels too early for us to be signing well established, prime age, elite level Champions League players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Hojberg is the exact sort of signing I'd expect Everton to make if they were still capable of spending that much. I really really really want us to stay away from other big English club's cast-offs. Surely we can find a random forrin to do what Hojberg does? Tiote for 2.5 mil type signing would do the trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Hojberg reminds me of Schneiderlin. Over rated, good for certain team or style, but would struggle elsewhere. Personally I’d rather we go for athleticism and dynamism in the middle to complement a fast paced breakaway attack style, rather than a player who is sluggish and slows the play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: I don’t rate the Spurs fella, he’s average IMO. He’s boarding on Danish Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Hojberg is the exact sort of signing I'd expect Everton to make if they were still capable of spending that much. I really really really want us to stay away from other big English club's cast-offs. Surely we can find a random forrin to do what Hojberg does? Tiote for 2.5 mil type signing would do the trick. Tbf he's not a cast-off. He's a regular. BUt I don't rate him like that. 30 minutes ago, Mazzy said: Dybala would be the godfather of all statement signings. It would blow Robinho out of the water and then some. I'd be shocked if it were happen, feels like we are 2 or so years away from a signing like that, just feels too early for us to be signing well established, prime age, elite level Champions League players. Don't want it. Massive wages. Injury prone. Been to the top. New league. Luxury player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said: He’s boarding on Danish Shelvey. Jonjo is a better passer to boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) He’s a luxury that would be worth it imo. Dybala would be a statement that properly says we are aiming high. One and maybe even the only "luxury" player i'd love us to sign. Toon is the place to be! He has had injury problems, but when he plays he delivers! Edited April 27, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm not sure what Hojbjerg's role would be within our side. He doesn't have the mobility or intelligence to be an effective DM. He frequently doesn't track runners, plus he gets sidestepped and turned so easily. He doesn't have the passing range or general ability to be playing further up the pitch. All in all, just a bit of a nothing player. I haven't seen very much of him tbh, but that's my impression at least. He seems like an upgraded version of your Jack Colbacks/Tom Davies . I hope we get someone stronger and faster in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Think I’d rather get a box to box midfielder to add to Bruno anyway, and a attacking midfielder. With the box to box being very athletic and full of running as well as technical ability. Ideally. Depends on the setup too obviously. Then we would have good depth and a few options. Edited April 27, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Reading that article about Dybala (via Google Translate) - it says "Dybala immediately recorded some polls from Newcastle, Tottenham and Atletico Madrid, memorized them and asked not to proceed" which doesn't sound particularly promising. A bit of a reach that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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