Miercoles Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Nine said: In an ideal world that is what will happen but I think we have more priority positions to address before we sign a new starting striker as the fees no doubt would be massive for a player like that, need to use our wiggle room with FFP wisely on upgrading our weakest positions in the squad first. Would agree with that, hopefully we can bring a young player in who can jump right in when called upon and contribute immediately, I'm sure that was the idea with Hugo but who knows about that now. However I think you're right that we don't necessarily need a top tier signing because I definitely rate Wilson when fit and I'm a confirmed Chris Wood apologist too so I'm not sure what I'm complaining about here haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 After latest round of rumours, here’s a speculation-filled exciting ‘top-four fantasy’ line-up for next season (… something to think about whilst season ticket seeking!): Pope Trippier Schar Botman Targett Guimarães Joelinton Paqueta Wijnaldum ASM Osimhen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 14 hours ago, Miercoles said: That's fair. I guess my thinking is that we need to be signing someone who will start over Wilson, who in turn needs to be used as the backup and not our main goal threat. I know he's really good, but he's completely unreliable over a season. It would have to be some striker to start over Wilson mind. Then you would probably end up losing Wilson as well as I don't think he's the type who will be prepared to sit on the bench at his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, TRon said: It would have to be some striker to start over Wilson mind. Then you would probably end up losing Wilson as well as I don't think he's the type who will be prepared to sit on the bench at his age. He doesn't even sit on the bench half of the time and that's the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, et tu brute said: He doesn't even sit on the bench half of the time and that's the point. Yes I get it, he's injured a lot, but I'm presuming we were buying a striker good enough to start over Wilson, he'd have to be top drawer, and that would put Wilson's future here in doubt. I'm all for buying the best btw, I just don't think we are at that stage yet. It will be a young promising striker who can compete with Wilson but won't necessarily start over him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TRon said: Yes I get it, he's injured a lot, but I'm presuming we were buying a striker good enough to start over Wilson, he'd have to be top drawer, and that would put Wilson's future here in doubt. I'm all for buying the best btw, I just don't think we are at that stage yet. It will be a young promising striker who can compete with Wilson but won't necessarily start over him. What if he misses half the season though again. Say we get a promising young striker, but is then thrust into being a regular as a result of Wilson being off long term again. Very dangerous position that mind as the exact same thing happened with Jon Dahl Tomasson. Edited June 28, 2022 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, et tu brute said: What if he misses half the season though again. Say we get a promising young striker, but is then thrust into being a regular as a result of a Wilson being off long term again. Very dangerous position that mind as the exact same thing happened with Jon Dahl Tomasson. We've got Wood there as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, TRon said: We've got Wood there as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, TRon said: We've got Wood there as well. Not many getting wood at the thought of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, et tu brute said: What if he misses half the season though again. Say we get a promising young striker, but is then thrust into being a regular as a result of Wilson being off long term again. Very dangerous position that mind as the exact same thing happened with Jon Dahl Tomasson. What would you propose? A player on a par or better than Wilson will take his place and may force him out the door. A young understudy may not yet be good enough. Ultimately, if we are to progress as a club, there needs to be competition for places and the players will have to welcome it or be replaced by better ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: After latest round of rumours, here’s a speculation-filled exciting ‘top-four fantasy’ line-up for next season (… something to think about whilst season ticket seeking!): Pope Trippier Schar Botman Targett Guimarães Joelinton Paqueta Wijnaldum ASM Osimhen I’ve been surprised at the lack of Wijnaldum rumours, I would definitely take him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: I’ve been surprised at the lack of Wijnaldum rumours, I would definitely take him. Me too. He needs a move to somewhere where he’ll play if he is to make the WC squad, so I could see him being interested too. Perhaps a loan where we pay only a part of his wages might suit both parties, if the Bahraini Qatari are open to doing a deal with us. Edited June 28, 2022 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kimbo said: I’ve been surprised at the lack of Wijnaldum rumours, I would definitely take him. This place is something else ... you would actually be happy to go and spend a fee and significant wages on a 31 year old Wijnaldum. God forbid!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Didn’t some journalist say he had no intention of returning to us, so maybe we sounded him out and he told us no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Unbelievable said: Me too. He needs a move to somewhere where he’ll play if he is to make the WC squad, so I could see him being interested too. Perhaps a loan where we pay only a part of his wages might suit both parties, if the Bahraini are open to doing a deal with us. NO!!!! Time to move forward. Allow these guys on the downturn man. Please stop it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: Didn’t some journalist say he had no intention of returning to us, so maybe we sounded him out and he told us no Fingers crossed, don’t want him back at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Wijnaldum can fuck off, he's a twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: This place is something else ... you would actually be happy to go and spend a fee and significant wages on a 31 year old Wijnaldum. God forbid!!! I though PSG were desperate to get rid. If it’s not a big fee I don’t see age as an issue personally. I could see politics getting in the way of us dealing with PSG anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Unbelievable said: What would you propose? A player on a par or better than Wilson will take his place and may force him out the door. A young understudy may not yet be good enough. Ultimately, if we are to progress as a club, there needs to be competition for places and the players will have to welcome it or be replaced by better ones. Personally I would be looking at a player with at least the same standing as Wilson. Unfortunately you cannot rely on Wilson to be fit. I would also be looking at a younger player also. Whether that happens I can't honestly say, we will see at the end of the window (possibly not). Your last point sums it up perfectly, players have to realise the club is looking to progress and will therefore look for a higher level player to replace/compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Wijnaldum was our 15/16 season equivalent of Michael Owen. I passionately despise him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kimbo said: I though PSG were desperate to get rid. If it’s not a big fee I don’t see age as an issue personally. I could see politics getting in the way of us dealing with PSG anyway. I just think there are loads of other up and coming talents who would be far more energised and motivated to join what we are currently building. Why go and bring in this older guy that is on his way down, and who could hardly get a kick at PSG last year. No thanks. We've got to move past all these 'names' just because they are well known. There are other younger players coming through that we need to identify and go and sign. Just because they aren't house hold names yet, doesn't mean they don't exist. It's up to our scouting and DOF to go and get them. That midfielder Palace just signed is very highly rated, and they 've got him for just £23 million or so from Lens. We can't have Palace signing those kind of players while we go signing Wijnaldum at 31 years old man. Then in a year we'll be wanting to sign him off Palace for £60 million when he does well, which would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Why go and bring in this older guy that is on his way down, and who could hardly get a kick at PSG last year. No thanks. hardly a stick to beat him with that. not sure if I'd take him, but thought he was class in the Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, James said: Wijnaldum was our 15/16 season equivalent of Michael Owen. I passionately despise him I don't despise him but I didn't like him for us at all. I don't think he would come either. But - I would take him him on loan for sure. In a midfield 3 Bruno - Shelvey Gini or Gini - Bruno - Joe. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) I don't mind a big name player on loan with an agreed option to buy. I'd take any Chelsea attacker on that basis. Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner - whoever. Edited June 28, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Not many getting wood at the thought of that. But I can guarantee you that Howe will still see Wood as the back up for Wilson regardless of what we think of him, and I don't rate him at all. Realistically we aren't going to be spending £60m to bring in a replacement for Wilson, even assuming one was available. It will be someone along the Ekiteke mode who can be an understudy, or possibly play alongside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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