r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) He’s a steady player but I don’t see much in him which can’t be bought abroad for cheaper to be honest. Levy would no doubt rinse us as well. Edited April 27, 2022 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Get a look at this lad when they play West Ham this week. edit scratch that he’s suspended. The Magpies are interested in French defender Evan Ndicka, 22, who plays for Eintracht Frankfurt. (Bild - in German, subscription required) Edited April 27, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Hoijberg would be a brilliant signing. £30m isn’t a huge outlay either I don’t think, Bissouma/Phillips would be £15-20m and I think he’s similar sort of level. Edited April 27, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Hoijberg would be a brilliant signing. £30m isn’t a huge outlay either I don’t think, Bissouma/Phillips would be £15-20m and I think he’s similar sort of level. Bissouma would be quality but isn’t there court case ongoing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, The Prophet said: Hojbjerg is one of the most overrated players in the league. Wouldn't happen regardless. You've seen the Rashford and Lingard links right? Edited April 27, 2022 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I like him. Signing him along with Bruno gives flexibility to who the third midfielder could be. A box-to-box, another creative player, someone who’ll bomb on and support the striker, a more natural number 10… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: He’s a steady player but I don’t see much in him which can’t be bought abroad for cheaper to be honest. Levy would no doubt rinse us as well. Is this a bit of a cliche based on Berbatov and Bale? I don't think he's this amazing negotiator that people give him credit for. Looking at their transfer history, since Bale went in 2013/14, the only player that stands out where they might have received an above average fee is Kyle Walker in 2017/18. Looking at arrivals, they have spent a lot of money on players who have had little impact which would indicate they have overpaid for a few players; poor scouting also plays a part too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, macphisto said: Is this a bit of a cliche based on Berbatov and Bale? I don't think he's this amazing negotiator that people give him credit for. Looking at their transfer history, since Bale went in 2013/14, the only player that stands out where they might have received an above average fee is Kyle Walker in 2017/18. Looking at arrivals, they have spent a lot of money on players who have had little impact which would indicate they have overpaid for a few players; poor scouting also plays a part too. Probably more of a ‘Levy gets what he wants or else the player doesn’t move’, like Kane, rather than ‘negotiating’ per se. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, macphisto said: Is this a bit of a cliche based on Berbatov and Bale? I don't think he's this amazing negotiator that people give him credit for. Looking at their transfer history, since Bale went in 2013/14, the only player that stands out where they might have received an above average fee is Kyle Walker in 2017/18. Looking at arrivals, they have spent a lot of money on players who have had little impact which would indicate they have overpaid for a few players; poor scouting also plays a part too. No. Not really. It’s based upon him having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF. EPL - EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Would also prefer Phillips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I don’t rate the Spurs fella, he’s average IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Average Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: No. Not really. It’s based upon him having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF. EPL - EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees. That basically applies to almost all selling clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ikon said: Average Aye, lacks mobility and slows the game down, there is a reason Spurs want rid of him, if it’s true that is. We could do better shopping abroad easily for half the money or the same. Edited April 27, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Manxst said: Probably more of a ‘Levy gets what he wants or else the player doesn’t move’, like Kane, rather than ‘negotiating’ per se. Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 minute ago, macphisto said: That basically applies to almost all selling clubs. I don’t think it does. How much would Bruno have cost if he played for Arsenal? The fact we paid 25m for Chris Wood also illustrates my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. MA: How much do you want? Selling club: 20m MA: OK, here’s a quid! Selling club: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I don’t think it does. How much would Bruno have cost if he played for Arsenal? The fact we paid 25m for Chris Wood also illustrates my point. What point are you making? My original point was that Levy has an over inflated reputation for being a tough negotiator which is not backed up by a lot of evidence. "having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF"=Applies to most selling clubs, irrespective of the league. "EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees."=Applies to all English clubs, irrespective of the league. Your example of Chris Wood backs up my point even more as they're not one of the wealthier clubs and still received a high transfer fee. Are you saying we should not buy from any English clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, HTT II said: MA: How much do you want? Selling club: 20m MA: OK, here’s a quid! Selling club: And a SD Mug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just now, macphisto said: What point are you making? My original point was that Levy has an over inflated reputation for being a tough negotiator which is not backed up by a lot of evidence. "having no reason to sell and us being owned by one of the worlds largest SWF"=Applies to most selling clubs, irrespective of the league. "EPL transfer involving the wealthy clubs usually lead to inflated fees."=Applies to all English clubs, irrespective of the league. Your example of Chris Wood backs up my point even more as they're not one of the wealthier clubs and still received a high transfer fee. Are you saying we should not buy from any English clubs? Who cares about Levy’s reputation? It might be exaggerated but given he would have all the leverage I doubt we would get the player for 30m. And no, our strategy should be get the best players we possibly can regardless of where they are based. For my money, buying a DM who is good but no outstanding represents really bad value when we can get Kamara for free for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I'm not sure what Hojbjerg's role would be within our side. He doesn't have the mobility or intelligence to be an effective DM. He frequently doesn't track runners, plus he gets sidestepped and turned so easily. He doesn't have the passing range or general ability to be playing further up the pitch. All in all, just a bit of a nothing player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Who cares about Levy’s reputation? It might be exaggerated but given he would have all the leverage I doubt we would get the player for 30m. And no, our strategy should be get the best players we possibly can regardless of where they are based. For my money, buying a DM who is good but no outstanding represents really bad value when we can get Kamara for free for example. Cheers and I agree about getting the best players possible, no matter what league they play in. I suppose I care about Levy's reputation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Levy not wanting to sell, Ashley not wanting to buy…match made in heaven! ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeB Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, macphisto said: Honestly, I would say Ashley was just as tough a negotiator, certainly when it came to buying players. Complete ambivalence is a strong negotiating position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Quote Newcastle United have made an offer to Juventus forward Paulo Dybala, according to Alfredo Pedulla. The well-known and well-respected journalist has reported that Newcastle are keen on signing Dybala on a free transfer in the summer of 2022 when his current contract at Juventus runs out. Allow me to dream! no idea who Pedulla is, apparently a well respected journalist. Let's see if he will accept 120k/week which we would never exceed..... We have been linked alot with him, but could also be to drum up the interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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