Kid Icarus Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 It's a sweet deal in isolation, but I can't help but think that giving them Shelvey makes up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 So that means, in FFP terms, we have made a profit on Chris Wood??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, simonsays said: So that means, in FFP terms, we have made a profit on Chris Wood??? Broke even. Bought for £25m on a 2.5 year deal. Attracted £10m of amortisation while here, sold for £15m while valued at £15m on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It's a sweet deal in isolation, but I can't help but think that giving them Shelvey makes up for it. In isolation, I'd have given them Shelvey too. I think that deal looks worse because we didn't get anyone else in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joseph said: Broke even. Bought for £25m on a 2.5 year deal. Attracted £10m of amortisation while here, sold for £15m while valued at £15m on our books. Factor in the 4m loan fee and it's profit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: In isolation, I'd have given them Shelvey too. I think that deal looks worse because we didn't get anyone else in. No doubt but I count that as part of it. If we'd replaced Shelvey, I wouldn't consider selling Shelvey a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: Factor in the 4m loan fee and it's profit? I’m not convinced we managed to rinse Forest for an almost-guaranteed £15m transfer fee and a £4m loan fee on top to be honest. But we’ve also paid him about £4m in wages over the last year so it would still be a break even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 hours ago, 54 said: 3 starts, that's kind of hilarious Some people have said 3 appearances would have done it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 This is bonkers. £15m. And for a one season contract! I sincerely hope he proves worth the money for them. Seems a good guy even if we outgrew him about as quickly as we bought him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: Factor in the 4m loan fee and it's profit? Plus, wont we technically have had him for a season and a half, as he is permanently moving in the summer, meaning £15m amortisation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 52 minutes ago, The Prophet said: In isolation, I'd have given them Shelvey too. I think that deal looks worse because we didn't get anyone else in. I think the Shelvey deal looked worse becasue of the Bruno red card/same day. Realistically, Shelvey was nowhere near the first team anymore (with BG, JL, SL, JW in front of him), and I doubt, barring an injury crisis that Howe had any intentuion of using him, and activating the contract extension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 When was the last time we got 10 or 15+m for a player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Perez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Yup, Perez, then Mitro and Merino all double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 According to NUFC.com, our most recent sales for more than £10m: Jul 2019: Ayoze Perez -> Leicester £30m Jul 2018: Alexander Mitrovic -> Fulham £22M Jul 2018: Mikel Merino -> Real Sociedad £10.5M Aug 2016: Mousssa Sissoko -> Tottenham £30M Jul 2016: Gini Wijnaldum -> Liverpool £25m Really goes to highlight just how ran into the ground Ashley has made us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, 54 said: According to NUFC.com, our most recent sales for more than £10m: Jul 2019: Ayoze Perez -> Leicester £30m Jul 2018: Alexander Mitrovic -> Fulham £22M Jul 2018: Mikel Merino -> Real Sociedad £10.5M Aug 2016: Mousssa Sissoko -> Tottenham £30M Jul 2016: Gini Wijnaldum -> Liverpool £25m Really goes to highlight just how ran into the ground Ashley has made us. Absolutely fucking pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Reading the NFFC subreddit, they're not very happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, 54 said: According to NUFC.com, our most recent sales for more than £10m: Jul 2019: Ayoze Perez -> Leicester £30m Jul 2018: Alexander Mitrovic -> Fulham £22M Jul 2018: Mikel Merino -> Real Sociedad £10.5M Aug 2016: Mousssa Sissoko -> Tottenham £30M Jul 2016: Gini Wijnaldum -> Liverpool £25m Really goes to highlight just how ran into the ground Ashley has made us. Jan 2014: Yohan Cabaye -> PSG £18m (should have been higher, possibly) Jan 2011: Andy Carroll -> Liverpool £35M Some of those players went on crazy inflation due to their unexpected form. Merino in hindsight is poor return. Thauvin would have been as well, too bad he wasn't up for it. 2 minutes ago, Nobody said: Absolutely fucking pathetic In comparison to? It's not been great, but I personally wouldn't say pathetic. That's Sunderland or Everton territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Jan 2014: Yohan Cabaye -> PSG £18m (should have been higher, possibly) Jan 2011: Andy Carroll -> Liverpool £35M Some of those players went on crazy inflation due to their unexpected form. Merino in hindsight is poor return. Thauvin would have been as well, too bad he wasn't up for it. In comparison to? It's not been great, but I personally wouldn't say pathetic. That's Sunderland or Everton territory. Everton have loads: - 2022 Richarlison 60m - 2023 Gordon 45m - 2021 Digne 25m - 2019 Vlasic 14m - 2019 Lookman 18m - 2019 Gueye 30m - 2018 Klaasen 18m - 2017 Lukaku 75m - 2017 Deloefeu 10m = 2017 Barkley 15m - 2016 - Stones 45m And that's just going back to 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 my recency bias is on full display. Apologies to the Scouse Mackems, OG Mackems for the win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Bonk said: my recency bias is on full display. Apologies to the Scouse Mackems, OG Mackems for the win. Think Nobody was more implying that given how inflationary prizes are recently, the fact that up until a month ago, the only asset we've sold that has been more that £10m was over 4 years ago, and to only sell 5 in an 8 year period shows just how poorly we'd been run under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 For a penny pinching billionare like Ashley, you'd think he'd have a better understanding of asset valuation, appreciation. A good lesson in capital investment that doing the bare minimum usually results in average or below average yield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 54 said: According to NUFC.com, our most recent sales for more than £10m: Jul 2019: Ayoze Perez -> Leicester £30m - good deal for us. Bad for Leicester, not terrible though Jul 2018: Alexander Mitrovic -> Fulham £22M good deal for Fulham. Good fee for us at the time. Jul 2018: Mikel Merino -> Real Sociedad £10.5M Good deal for Sociedad. Didn't do enough to justify much more. Aug 2016: Mousssa Sissoko -> Tottenham £30M Good deal for us. Never won over the Spurs fans but he played over 200 games for them Jul 2016: Gini Wijnaldum -> Liverpool £25m Good deal for Liverpool. Light fee in retrospect Really goes to highlight just how ran into the ground Ashley has made us. Going down with a team that included Perez, Mitrovic, Sissoko & Wijnaldum is a crime. Never once played Sissoko and Wijnaldum in CM, instead we had Colback & Anita. Jesus wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 We got a good fee, great but I'll be honest. I didn't care much for being an NUFC accountant under Ashley, and I don't care much for it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Not sure I want to live in a world where Chris Wood can be transferred twice within 18 months and £40,000,000 changes hands in the process Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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