Mag_in_NZ Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, TBG said: Got to wonder if he could've ran it off if Howe had left him on. Hello Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, madras said: There are differing severities to it, you can run it off to a point. I done my ligaments years ago and the rest of my playing career had issues with going over like that, sometimes I could play on , others I couldn't. That and the flat feet (diagnosed aged 50) are 2 of the 3 reasons why I never made it professionally. What was number 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, LV said: What was number 3? Lack of ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, madras said: Lack of ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 One of the bad bad calls Howe has made. ? ok. The doctors checked him twice. He played on. when you do your ankle that way sometimes you’re able to carry on. It’s the severity of the injury that really shows itself later. He was weeping later because he knew he was hurt and couldn’t carry on. Fucking hell man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: One of the bad bad calls Howe has made. ? ok. The doctors checked him twice. He played on. when you do your ankle that way sometimes you’re able to carry on. It’s the severity of the injury that really shows itself later. He was weeping later because he knew he was hurt and couldn’t carry on. Fucking hell man. Glad you're so sure of the reason. I also think it was a mistake for a couple of reasons. He was ineffective and it's risky since they didn't know the grade of the sprain. Sounds like things are being presented as positive to the press and that's great news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kanji said: One of the bad bad calls Howe has made. ? ok. The doctors checked him twice. He played on. when you do your ankle that way sometimes you’re able to carry on. It’s the severity of the injury that really shows itself later. He was weeping later because he knew he was hurt and couldn’t carry on. Fucking hell man. Howe himself said afterwards it was a mistake. And I'm pretty sure the chief sponge-bearer who checked him isn't a doctor. It is actually possible to criticise a manager without going overboard or calling for his head. We're not in a cult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe himself said afterwards it was a mistake. And I'm pretty sure the chief sponge-bearer who checked him isn't a doctor. It is actually possible to criticise a manager without going overboard or calling for his head. We're not in a cult. I agree. Howe indicated he leans on how the player is feeling and I'm fine with that. Bruno said he could continue. Once you realize after 8 minutes or so he's clearly hobbled he should come off. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I am not tearing into Eddie. I'm not trying to make a big deal of it, just that it was indeed a mistake in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I thought he hobbled for a few minutes after continuing but then looked to be moving freely again, it was only when it approached half time I noticed it was still an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I thought he looked fucked pretty much the whole time after, I was a little surprised he could even pass it but you could see him wincing everytime he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, NWMag said: I thought he hobbled for a few minutes after continuing but then looked to be moving freely again, it was only when it approached half time I noticed it was still an issue I never thought he looked comfortable but it's totally subjective so I can see both sides. I didn't see him dribbling, just passing off but again, I could be wrong on that. Just what I recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe himself said afterwards it was a mistake. And I'm pretty sure the chief sponge-bearer who checked him isn't a doctor. It is actually possible to criticise a manager without going overboard or calling for his head. We're not in a cult. the sponge bearer is a physiotherapist who radios the doctor and they speak to Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 hours ago, LFEE said: Fuck off Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 A full conversation off the back of a TBG post, lovely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Alberto2005 said: I thought he looked fucked pretty much the whole time after, I was a little surprised he could even pass it but you could see him wincing everytime he did. Yeah, I think in practice if a player can't run the injury off fairly quickly then it's not going to happen at all. If movement is still impaired after 5 minutes, the player should be subbed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The minute it happened I thought he'd snapped it. Was amazed he carried on but you could tell it wasn't going to last. Howe's said he relies heavily on the player's self-referral (like Starmer's Lab apparently) but, in this case he should've hooked him. Bit of hard words with the players needed imho. If ya fucked hold ya hand up and come off. Bruno's eagerness to please jeopardising his career imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Rashford looked injured the other day too tbf. But his looked muscular rather than ligaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: The minute it happened I thought he'd snapped it. Was amazed he carried on but you could tell it wasn't going to last. Howe's said he relies heavily on the player's self-referral (like Starmer's Lab apparently) but, in this case he should've hooked him. Bit of hard words with the players needed imho. If ya fucked hold ya hand up and come off. Bruno's eagerness to please jeopardising his career imho. Jeopardising his career? Slightly OTT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Hell’s teeth. The player wanted to carry on. If he had been completely fucked of course he would have come off. He’d have been hoping it would start to ease and it may well have done. It didn’t and that’s it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Bruno definitely run it off a few minutes initially and looked ok again then he started struggling again. Don’t recall EH saying he made a mistake just that it was a difficult decision as the player wanted to continue and ideally he’d get to HT to access it calmly and a player knows his body better than anyone else. If it was a concussion he would’ve took the decision out of the player’s hands was what I recall him saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, 54 said: Bruuuno! Getting a new dog soon and the name is decided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, NWMag said: Jeopardising his career? Slightly OTT 37 minutes ago, LV said: Hell’s teeth. The player wanted to carry on. If he had been completely fucked of course he would have come off. He’d have been hoping it would start to ease and it may well have done. It didn’t and that’s it. Ha, perhaps I should've said "in an extreme case, potentially" ? Obvs I'm a fanny because I can barely bring myself to watch the replays of his ankle. Always a bit woozy about things like that tbh. I just think with this squad and the eagerness they'll all have to play. Even thru pain they need a bit of restraint. Bless the gorgeous emotional bloke tho but. Crying as he left the pitch shows what it means to him. He's like that Knight from The Holy Grail. I do think he was foolish trying to carry on and DID risk long term damage. Not everyone's an England's Michael Owen, thank fuck Edited January 17, 2023 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Got to wonder if he could injure himself in the home leg putting him out of the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBG said: Got to wonder if he could injure himself in the home leg putting him out of the final. Tbf that could happen to any player and a red card Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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