Dr. TC Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Smal said: I see he played in a double pivot alongside Casemiro. Of the players we have, a Tonali-Bruno pivot seems like the best option if we want to try something new imo. Joelinton can play left wing or 10, or as a rotation option for the pivot players. Willock seems ideally suited to a 10 role with Isak ahead of him too imo. Or Isak as a 10 with Wilson ahead of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smootsmack Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, smootsmack said: why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? There is the emotion as ‘good in business’ syndrome, sure, notwithstanding the cruel to be kind scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, smootsmack said: why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? Is it blasphemy to not consider him our best player? Personally i think Isak and Botman have had better performances on average for us overall. I still rate him, but not as highly as the rest of the forum it seems. Edited September 9, 2023 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Displayname said: Is it blasphemy to not consider him our best player? Personally i think Isak and Botman have had better performances on average for us overall. I still rate him, but not as highly as the rest of the forum it seems. Botman is probably the most consistent one. Not sure about Isak vs Bruno, because they both have been insane at their best, but Isak has had some games where he's barely getting involved. Typical for a striker though, it even happens with Haaland. Kind of hard to compare the performances of Bruno and Isak, with Isak being a striker. Edited September 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. In a world where Caicedo just topped £100m, that bit is questionable... I'm sure it could be done, but it's easier said than done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Not even entertaining a hypothetical with him. He’s our main man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 It will be exciting to see what Liverpool do next summer after selling Salah. Probably won't be CL next season, which means he might want to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, mattypnufc said: that is the reason right there why we needed to buy a 6. It is not his best role and he is wasted there Edited September 9, 2023 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, duo said: that is the reason right there why we needed to buy a 6. It is not his best role and he is wasted there Who was Brazils 6 last night ? Seemed like a double pivot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, madras said: Who was Brazils 6 last night ? Seemed like a double pivot. Casimero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: Casimero I watched about 15mins in the first half, seemed like a double then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Butcher said: Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. Fair. Good strikers for a fair price are not easy to find nowadays, so Isak is very important. But it's also hard to find a good DM without breaking the bank. Edited September 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) Liverpool allegedly bidding £100 million for him and Real, City and Arsenal being credited with an interest tells you how easy he'll be to replace. Edited September 10, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 He would be much more effective in a triple pivot with a false 10 in the side. This would allow a shadow 6 leading to a hexagonal defensive midfield formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, RS said: He would be much more effective in a triple pivot with a false 10 in the side. This would allow a shadow 6 leading to a hexagonal defensive midfield formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 A "double pivot" is far more precise than "a pair of midfielders who usually sit behind more attacking midfielders, with one a more traditional defensive midfield and the other more of a water carrier". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, RS said: He would be much more effective in a triple pivot with a false 10 in the side. This would allow a shadow 6 leading to a hexagonal defensive midfield formation Was just saying this to my mate at the pub before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, RS said: He would be much more effective in a triple pivot with a false 10 in the side. This would allow a shadow 6 leading to a hexagonal defensive midfield formation As long as all 3 mids have good torso deception we good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 12 hours ago, madras said: I watched about 15mins in the first half, seemed like a double then. Bruno may be playing higher up though- Casimero giving him that license. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, duo said: Bruno may be playing higher up though- Casimero giving him that license. And the opposition/circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 17 hours ago, The Butcher said: Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. £100m is not going to get you two top level midfielders these days. As mental as that sounds typing it out. Would we not be better off keeping arguably our best and most sought after player and building the team and midfield around him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) I say sell him for 100mill......... then immediately buy him back for 100mill. Yeah its an obvious FFP dodge but so is loan with obligation. Not being serious btw. Edited September 10, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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