The Prophet Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Not sure mild criticism of mediocre performances going back nine months can constitute hounding a player out mind. I haven't seen a single person say we need to get rid. Apart from huge exaggerations about his form, weird narratives about his attitude and suggestions we should sell him, its all been very mild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Apart from huge exaggerations about his form, weird narratives about his attitude and suggestions we should sell him, its all been very mild. His form has been mediocre for pretty much the entirety of 2023, and every player has a price. Sorry, I'm not buying the hound-him-out narrative. If you want to see what abuse looks like, have a look at comments re Dan Burn or Anthony Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Tsunami said: He’s still a bit off the pace and that booking was complete school boy nonsense. It was verging on violent conduct. Not the first time either. He had a good game. The petulant fouling is something he’s always done and will likely keep doing. It’s the kind of thing people ignored or made excuses for when he was the golden boy. I think some are turning on him and using it as a stick to beat him with. Whole time he’s the same player doing the same thing. He was the best midfielder on the park by a distance. One thing I noticed is Longstaff lets Bruno lead him. And he fills in. Tonali plays his own game and doesn’t work well with Bruno yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: His form has been mediocre for pretty much the entirety of 2023, and every player has a price. Sorry, I'm not buying the hound-him-out narrative. If you want to see what abuse looks like, have a look at comments re Dan Burn or Anthony Gordon. My tongue was very much wedged in my cheek, but much like a lot of reactions after a couple of defeats they've been well over the top. Its very reminiscent of ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, The College Dropout said: He had a good game. The petulant fouling is something he’s always done and will likely keep doing. It’s the kind of thing people ignored or made excuses for when he was the golden boy. I think some are turning on him and using it as a stick to beat him with. Whole time he’s the same player doing the same thing. He was the best midfielder on the park by a distance. One thing I noticed is Longstaff lets Bruno lead him. And he fills in. Tonali plays his own game and doesn’t work well with Bruno yet. That’s a good summing up. There’s no harm in pointing out players aren’t in form and can do better but the overreaction from football fans thesedays is ridiculous. Someone is a god one minute, then they’re shite. Fwiw I thought Bruno looked a lot better on Saturday, he was recycling the ball quicker. In time I’m sure Bruno and Tonali will play well together but Longstaff definitely allows Bruno to do his thing better and Longstaff with Bruno and Tonali might work well. I wonder if they’ll look to bring in a more traditional 6 type player who can shield the defence, break things up and allow the likes of Bruno etc to crack on ahead of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: That’s a good summing up. There’s no harm in pointing out players aren’t in form and can do better but the overreaction from football fans thesedays is ridiculous. Someone is a god one minute, then they’re shite. Fwiw I thought Bruno looked a lot better on Saturday, he was recycling the ball quicker. In time I’m sure Bruno and Tonali will play well together but Longstaff definitely allows Bruno to do his thing better and Longstaff with Bruno and Tonali might work well. I wonder if they’ll look to bring in a more traditional 6 type player who can shield the defence, break things up and allow the likes of Bruno etc to crack on ahead of them. Bruno and Tonali are good footballers, so hopefully they will. They definitely need time to develop an understanding - I’ve got a feeling they’ll find European football the ideal place to develop it. Sometimes the pace of the game in England slows the development of those sort of partnerships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Longstaff almost plays for Bruno. Covers him. Looks for him to pass too. And Bruno just plays his own game. Tonali and Bruno will need to play for each other. Bruno has always been the main man for us so that might be a challenge for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Warrior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Worked his socks off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Really good tonight, probably his best performance this season. Need more help though, the other two push out so wide he feels isolated in the middle at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Much better in the last two. Painfully slow when teams break mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Much better in the last two. Painfully slow when teams break mind. Giroud burned him second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Thought he was the best player on the ball against Brentford and he was great again today. Gets man marked which stops him playing offensively. But he was sharp on the ball all game. And brilliant off it for the entire 95 minutes. A champion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He was quiet but when he had the ball he was very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Kinda the same pattern as his Brentford performance for me, pretty anonymous early on but grew into it and by the end was probably pick of the bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Games like these are where the players who can step up a gear stand out. He thought a yard quicker than everyone else, and was one of our few players who managed to get past their press with some cute turns and bursts of acceleration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 He was one of the few who looked of standard, or at least had played at this level before. Thought the occasion got to quite a few of our lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) https://x.com/brunoog97/status/1704211468802052113?s=20 Edited September 19, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Thought he was the best player on the ball against Brentford and he was great again today. Gets man marked which stops him playing offensively. But he was sharp on the ball all game. And brilliant off it for the entire 95 minutes. A champion. Agree, he put in another great performance tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Motm for me. Daft pass at the end after Trippier kept the ball in, but covered every blade of grass and showed for the ball consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) On 17/09/2023 at 23:27, The College Dropout said: He had a good game. The petulant fouling is something he’s always done and will likely keep doing. It’s the kind of thing people ignored or made excuses for when he was the golden boy. I think some are turning on him and using it as a stick to beat him with. Whole time he’s the same player doing the same thing. He was the best midfielder on the park by a distance. One thing I noticed is Longstaff lets Bruno lead him. And he fills in. Tonali plays his own game and doesn’t work well with Bruno yet. Hopefully Tonali and Burno can develop a better understanding over time, they are both quality players in their own right but they seem to detract from each other at present rather than compliment. Edited September 19, 2023 by pubteam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, pubteam said: Hopefully Tonali and Burno can develop a better understanding over time, they are both quality players in their own right but they seem to detract from each other at present rather than compliment. I think its the third spoke in the wheel that complicates things. That's not to say any of the options there are a problem, rather the system complicates B&Ts relationship. Double pivot (as the cool kids would say) or an old skool Lee/Clark type combo imo allows the relationship to flourish and allows for a tweak in formation to add an option supporting the striker. Dare I even suggest a 3-1-4-2 (or version of) once Hall and Livra get in the team to be the way forward if we want to build around these 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 is Giroud a bit quick out the blocks, have never noticed. Breezed past Bruno over the 10m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Holloway said: is Giroud a bit quick out the blocks, have never noticed. Breezed past Bruno over the 10m Giroud is quite possibly one of the slowest players I’ve seen 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I must’ve missed that. Getting outpaced by a 37 year old Olivier Giroud is funny more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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