Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Beren said: Pardew on Bruno signing extension: @Alan Pardew What's all this then, after all the image rehab on here? Howay, King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pardew Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike said: @Alan Pardew What's all this then, after all the image rehab on here? Howay, King. I’m just saying the clubs could activate the clause not that he would actually want to go. I believe he loves it at SJP. I can imagine him as young lad on the streets of Brazil. Playing and training hard. Then watching the telly. The Newcastle games are on. Manchester United beaten 3-0. Chelsea beaten 2-0. Stoke crushed 5-1. He saw the magic. Probably what spurred him on at a young age. The King doesn’t miss. You are welcome lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He's a ticking timebomb on the red card & suspension front. I hope he sorts it out over his career. But I'm not holding my breath. He's rash and emotional as a player. Those elements will always be there, but he needs to manage them better. He's done good not to develop a reputation. That's his saving grace so far. Like his compatriots Fernandinho & the lad that recently left Liverpool - he probably should've been sent off more in his PL career than he has. Nice lad rep has saved him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I love his emotion, it’s what feeds him. Think we just have to accept it’s a part of his game and to get the fire that comes out in a positive way, we have to accept that sometimes he’ll lose his head. Hard to accept given it will cost us at times but you have to make allowances for players of his quality that have his character Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 08/10/2023 at 08:50, Beren said: Pardew on Bruno signing extension: can’t help himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: He's a ticking timebomb on the red card & suspension front. I hope he sorts it out over his career. But I'm not holding my breath. He's rash and emotional as a player. Those elements will always be there, but he needs to manage them better. He's done good not to develop a reputation. That's his saving grace so far. Like his compatriots Fernandinho & the lad that recently left Liverpool - he probably should've been sent off more in his PL career than he has. Nice lad rep has saved him. Definitely. Applies to a few of our other players as well, like Joelinton and Burn. They, or someone, must be doing something right as it can't just be luck at this stage. It's weird actually, I don't remember ever having this experience of our players having a protective halo around them like Liverpool and Man United traditionally have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 We’ve had a history of having brainless players like Shelvey that have little charm. Think all of Shelvey’s reds that I can remember were justified though even though he had a shit reputation, probably just meant he picked up more yellows that weren’t yellows. Nowadays, both Bruno and Gordon walk a tightrope almost every game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, jack j said: Sort ya head out What the fuck ya on about? Fucking shite pass from tonali putting him under pressure. Wild take when it's his own undoing 30 minutes ago, gbandit said: I love his emotion, it’s what feeds him. Think we just have to accept it’s a part of his game and to get the fire that comes out in a positive way, we have to accept that sometimes he’ll lose his head. Hard to accept given it will cost us at times but you have to make allowances for players of his quality that have his character This ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, The College Dropout said: He's a ticking timebomb on the red card & suspension front. I hope he sorts it out over his career. But I'm not holding my breath. He's rash and emotional as a player. Those elements will always be there, but he needs to manage them better. He's done good not to develop a reputation. That's his saving grace so far. Like his compatriots Fernandinho & the lad that recently left Liverpool - he probably should've been sent off more in his PL career than he has. Nice lad rep has saved him. My friend who is an Arsenal fan warned me about Bruno after that Southampton red card, and told me about how much Xhaka has cost them. I ridiculed him, and told him that it was Brunos first red in his career, and he didn't even do it on purpose. I found the comparison ridiculous. He gave up the discussion because I was really defensive about it. I still think it is a bad comparison, but I'm also starting to realise that he was probably just observing how emotional Bruno is, and not just that incident in particular. PSG game could've been a whole different story with a different ref, and people would've cared 10 times more about what he did if he was actually sent off vs PSG, and we lost a 2-0 lead because of it. Completely unnecessary. It's easy to downplay it when it hasn't really cost us yet. Edited October 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Erikse said: My friend who is an Arsenal fan warned me about Bruno after that Southampton red card, and told me about how much Xhaka has cost them. I ridiculed him, and told him that it was Brunos first red in his career, and he didn't even do it on purpose. I found the comparison ridiculous. He gave up the discussion because I was really defensive about it. I still think it is a bad comparison, but I'm also starting to realise that he was probably just observing how emotional Bruno is, and not just that incident in particular. PSG game could've been a whole different story with a different ref, and people would've cared 10 times more about what he did if he was actually sent off vs PSG, and we lost a 2-0 lead because of it. Completely unnecessary. It's easy to downplay it when it hasn't really cost us yet. Aye. And unless he changes something dramatically, it will inevitably cost us massively at some point. We were winless through his suspension right? We got off lightly with that. The difference between Bruno and Xhaka regarding rashness and bad tackles is their reputation. Both are emotional and guilty of bad/late tackles. He's looking a multi-red + yellow card suspension player which is pretty bad. He'll get 1 game suspension soon and will do well to avoid a 2-game suspension at some point. Also 1 YC away from a CL suspension too right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Alan Pardew said: I’m just saying the clubs could activate the clause not that he would actually want to go. I believe he loves it at SJP. I can imagine him as young lad on the streets of Brazil. Playing and training hard. Then watching the telly. The Newcastle games are on. Manchester United beaten 3-0. Chelsea beaten 2-0. Stoke crushed 5-1. He saw the magic. Probably what spurred him on at a young age. The King doesn’t miss. You are welcome lads. Every post is another George Bush watercolor. Fair play, King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Him and Big Jow feels like Tiote and Cabaye on 'roids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Aye. And unless he changes something dramatically, it will inevitably cost us massively at some point. We were winless through his suspension right? We got off lightly with that. The difference between Bruno and Xhaka regarding rashness and bad tackles is their reputation. Both are emotional and guilty of bad/late tackles. He's looking a multi-red + yellow card suspension player which is pretty bad. He'll get 1 game suspension soon and will do well to avoid a 2-game suspension at some point. Also 1 YC away from a CL suspension too right? Fortunately he only has 1 yet in the Champions League. Yeah, I think what bothered me the most about the PSG incident was that he did it in what was our first home game in the Champions League for 20 years at 2-0 up vs PSG, when it was one of the few ways that we could actually throw it away (judging by how PSG wasn't really hurting us that much). It could've ultimately cost us advancement from the group of death, especially considering the suspension on top of it. The occasion was massive, and the timing for something like that could not be much worse. All because Ugarte barely bumped into him. Maybe a red would be soft, we didn't get a great replay. But it's a massive risk to take for no particular reason. Edited October 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, wormy said: Him and Big Jow feels like Tiote and Cabaye on 'roids. I say this a lot but Tiote in this squad would have been fucking extinction level. Tiote under Howe? Tiote?! Motherfucker, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Saving you the effort if you're like me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 What a man. He fucking loved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I feel like if I could see how many times I've seen that goal, it'd be easily triple digits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 You can't change Bruno like. TCD is right, at some point he will pick up a suspension. Its up to NUFC to make sure we have an able deputy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 07/10/2023 at 12:07, BergenMagpie said: https://www.nufc.co.uk/nufc-tv/latest-videos/bruno-this-is-the-place-where-i-have-felt-most-loved-by-the-fans/ I need to call my old man. That was beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mike said: I say this a lot but Tiote in this squad would have been fucking extinction level. Tiote under Howe? Tiote?! Motherfucker, man. Loved Tiote me. He got a lot of criticism for trying to be too much of a footballer instead of just winning it and giving the simple pass, but Pardew didn't exactly encourage passing football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Tiote was a proper throwback in lots of ways, like a lesser Kante with the bulldozing approach but none of the guile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, TRon said: Loved Tiote me. He got a lot of criticism for trying to be too much of a footballer instead of just winning it and giving the simple pass, but Pardew didn't exactly encourage passing football. I may be misremembering but wasn't a lot of that on Pardew? I swear I recall him trying to make him a bit of a jack of all rather than leaving him to what he did best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Pretty sure I remember Pardew bigging up Tiote to be an all action player which then began his daft passing and shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, wormy said: I may be misremembering but wasn't a lot of that on Pardew? I swear I recall him trying to make him a bit of a jack of all rather than leaving him to what he did best. He bigged him up, but then didn't really allow his teams to play football anyway. The term hoofball was invented during Pardew's era let's not forget. Tiote wasn't brilliant, but when he was actually in a team which had proper footballers around him like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse etc, he had an outstanding season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I seem to remember Pardew saying he wanted Tiote to be ‘our Essien’ or words to that effect. He was an absolute boss as an out and out DM and keeping it simple. Shock that Pardew didn’t notice this and get the best out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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