Bruno Guimarães

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, 500bhp said:

Reading the post back the last paragraph was a bit much and probably bollocks ? But I stand by the rest of the post.

 

Things change quickly in football and here and now he is fantastic for where we are on our journey. On his day he is our best player by a mile and worthy of his many MOTM awards. However, if we want to improve on last years 4th place we need players like Rodi, Rice, etc in that position. He is not at that level. 

 

I remember just after the takeover one of my first thoughts was great we will now definitely keep hold of ASM and build the team around him. He can play a key role in our progress over the coming years. 12 months later he couldn't get a starting place. Things change quickly. 

Bruno doesn't play the same role as those 2 like, hence us being after Kalvin Phillips. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Honestly, it's the first half of 94/95 and longevity that has Lee ahead. In terms of actual technical ability as a footballer it's already Bruno for me, he just needs to check a few things off the list before I can say he's the best midfielder we've had. 

I’m in complete agreement tbh.  Lee is still no.1 for the reasons you’ve outlined, but the idea that Bruno isn’t far more technically talented is crackers.

 

I do think that it isn’t as cut and dry with Cabaye - I’m still slightly on the fence between Cabaye and Bruno.  Gun to head, and I would probably say Bruno.  But not much in that one for me. 

[Kid Icarus]

It's night and day man, Cabaye has so many people wearing rose tinted glasses like. He was good, but nowhere near Bruno's level whatsoever.

[TheBrownBottle]

7 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

It's night and day man, Cabaye has so many people wearing rose tinted glasses like. He was good, but nowhere near Bruno's level whatsoever.

Still think Cabaye was a superb technical footballer.  No-one else I’ve seen comes near Bruno in that regard (I did see Gazza play for NUFC, but the reality is that I was far too young to fully take in how good he was). 

[Paully]

Cabaye was great for us (bar when he decided he didn’t want to play) but Bruno pisses all over him! 

[El Prontonise]

Cabaye would disappear most games after 70 mins, had a poor stamina.

 

Technically would agree probably better cos of his dead ball speciality.

[Pilko]

I was a massive fan of Cabaye at the time and still remember him really fondly (the free kick vs Man U being still one of my favourite ever NUFC goals) but Bruno is another level and then some, it's not even close.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just for clarity in terms of what I’m saying; I think Bruno is obviously comfortably a better midfielder.  I’m only talking about technical ability.  And of course, I don’t doubt that many will feel Bruno is ahead of him by a long way on that front; I’m just not one of them.  I think Bruno is better technically, but I don’t think it’s a wide margin. 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I guess it depends on what you mean by technical ability, the ability to control the ball under pressure, beating a player by using close control etc then Bruno is levels ahead of Cabaye

 

However, when it comes to being able to strike a ball, crossing etc it isn't close, Cabaye is way ahead

 

Overall though, Bruno is clear of Cabaye 

[Collage]

On 27/12/2023 at 03:42, joeyt said:

 

Gibbs White was tasked with man marking him and he was much quicker to the ball than Bruno. He ran the show

Gibbs-White is a good player, feel like he could/should play for a better team.

[PauloGeordio]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 1, 2024 by PauloGeordio

[huss9]

sounds ridiculous but 2 more yellows means a 2 game ban?

[Geordie Ahmed]

33 minutes ago, huss9 said:

sounds ridiculous but 2 more yellows means a 2 game ban?

Aye, it counts up to the 32nd fixture, which means it's absolutely nailed on like

 

Edit: He's on 7 at the moment, so 3 more yellows before 32nd fixture (Fulham away on April 6th)

 

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2024 by Geordie Ahmed

[huss9]

1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Aye, it counts up to the 32nd fixture, which means it's absolutely nailed on like

 

Edit: He's on 7 at the moment, so 3 more yellows before 32nd fixture (Fulham away on April 6th)

 

 

 

 

 

their mistake then.

flashed up 8 when he got booked tonight.

[Geordie Ahmed]

8 minutes ago, huss9 said:

their mistake then.

flashed up 8 when he got booked tonight.

I could be mistaken, Premier League site has him on 8, as does livescore and whoscored 

 

Whereas nufc.com as well as FPL has him on 7 

 

 

[Magpie]

Eight in the league

[duo]

He isn't a 6 - we need one so he can do more impact further up the pitch

 

 

Edited January 2, 2024 by duo

[Ikon]

He s World Class imo. It’s just that in a team like ours some of his weaknesses gets exposed at times, especially when we are bad. EVERY player has weaknesses and they can be seen, especially when the team as a whole doesn’t quite work.

 

Put Bruno in one of the world best possession based teams and it won’t take a lot of time before he’s a level above next level. Better ball playing players around him in a team that is great in possession and control games that’s when we will see the absolute true  best version of him. 
 

I think the biggest weakness he has is in defensive transitions. Otherwise I don’t see much tbh. Maybe his shooting. We just need to get the team working correctly again to prevent these and othera weaknesses from happening too often. 
 

He is amazing, he truly is. He would be even better and higher rated in a different kind of team imo. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We have maybe two players who could start for Man City, Bruno and Isak. 

[The Butcher]

16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We have maybe two players who could start for Man City, Bruno and Isak. 

Don't think our CB's would look out of place either. I'd have Gordon over Grealish as well.

[TRC]

Miggy over Bernardo too.

[Ikon]

Hypothetically speaking. IF we sold Bruno for say 100m. How much would that open up in regards to FFP, as in how much extra would that alone give us to spend? 
 

Heart says “I don’t want him sold no matter what”. Head says that maybe, just maybe it’s something we have to do to be able to progress as a whole? He has his best years ahead of him. Does he personally have the time to grow with us? He will be 27 next season and is in his prime years now and the next 3-4 seasons ahead. 
 

Im thinking outside the box here, like really. I desperately want him to be part of us as we grow and I really really want him to stay. But can we grow quick enough? Would it be “win win” for everyone if he was sold for a 100m? Apart from that we don’t really want to sell our best players and it would be heartbreaking too. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It can’t even be considered IMO, he’s a key part of our future team. 

[Ikon]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It can’t even be considered IMO, he’s a key part of our future team. 

He very much is and I absolutely love him. I’m just not sure if we can evolve quickly enough to manage to keep hold of him. Even though he is our crown jewel would selling him help us overall as well? Would it give us the chance of getting an extra 4 50m players or similar instead? I’m just thinking hypothetically here. 
 

Also, was it Ashworth who said that we will likely sell one of our better players here and there to allow us to progress properly? Players that we won’t want to sell ideally. 

[Vaj]

I think he needs to be part of a two with the third player playing further forward to get the best out of him. We need Bruno to be the one picking the ball up from the centre backs but we also need someone back there who is more defence minded who has a bit of pace and athleticism. It is very concerning how pretty much every team we play now finds that gap between the defence and midfield that we could all see was a potential weakness, especially after the Villa game last year. I think it is just getting exposed more now because teams are bypassing our press so much easier than last season and then it is easy to find the gaps. 

 

I love Howe and hope it works long term with him, but I think he needs to be less stubborn and look to change his style a little bit because it isn't working at the moment.