Bruno Guimarães

[TheBrownBottle]

5 hours ago, Wilson said:

We were spoiled last season, exceptional performances all round (some massively over performing) and unfortunately it seems sections of our support expect that to be the norm now. 

 

'we don't demand a team that wins... we demand a club that tries' 

 

Some people would do well to keep that quote in mind through our current evolution.  They'll have peaks and troughs as a team and as individuals, some of the comments I've seen about Bruno (not just on here) are fuckin ridiculous to put it lightly. 

I never liked that mantra, and it doesn’t speak for all of us.

 

Mainly because it is utter bollocks - a team of triers losing every week would not be a popular one on Tyneside. 

[STM]

13 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I never liked that mantra, and it doesn’t speak for all of us.

 

Mainly because it is utter bollocks - a team of triers losing every week would not be a popular one on Tyneside. 

 

Except its not a "team of triers" it's a "club that tries". Slight difference.

[STM]

Speaking for myself, I'm more interested in what's going on behind the scenes. Building a foundation with top class operators will see us successful in the long term, long after the likes of Bruno and Trippier have gone.

 

Eales said himself, the correlation between wages and success is there for us all to see. The plan is to build the club commercially so we can get to that promise land. Once we've done that.... trophies will follow.

 

Most of our current players are merely a bridge between the past and the future.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

Except its not a "team of triers" it's a "club that tries". Slight difference.

True, but that depends on what the club is ‘trying’ to do.

 

I’d suggest that the implication is that the club would be trying to win things, while not demanding that it does.  Either way, it is meaningless in the context of the performance of the players.

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, STM said:

Speaking for myself, I'm more interested in what's going on behind the scenes. Building a foundation with top class operators will see us successful in the long term, long after the likes of Bruno and Trippier have gone.

 

Eales said himself, the correlation between wages and success is there for us all to see. The plan is to build the club commercially so we can get to that promise land. Once we've done that.... trophies will follow.

 

Most of our current players are merely a bridge between the past and the future.

Yeah, this is basically where I am.  

[Wilson]

29 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I never liked that mantra, and it doesn’t speak for all of us.

 

Mainly because it is utter bollocks - a team of triers losing every week would not be a popular one on Tyneside. 

 

It really isn't utter bollocks but if that's your view, so be it.  Each to their own.

[Yorkie]

16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

True, but that depends on what the club is ‘trying’ to do.

 

I’d suggest that the implication is that the club would be trying to win things, while not demanding that it does.  Either way, it is meaningless in the context of the performance of the players.

 

It was never about the players really. That slogan first emerged in deepest darkest Pardew when the club was making it abundantly clear that it had no interest in competing; all the while to a backdrop of media coverage which labelled anti-Pardew angst as ungrateful Newcastle fans expecting the earth. 

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

It was never about the players really. That slogan first emerged in deepest darkest Pardew when the club was making it abundantly clear that it had no interest in competing; all the while to a backdrop of media coverage which labelled anti-Pardew angst as ungrateful Newcastle fans expecting the earth. 

Which ironically, judging by some people

on here and on social media (yes, yes. I know, I know). Plenty of fans fit the bill here. 
 

A few sub-par performances, some players a bit out of form and some reverting back to their base level and they’re all worse than shite. 
 

People have quickly forgotten the dark days and want it all straight away, it seems. 

[Wilson]

2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Which ironically, judging by some people

on here and on social media (yes, yes. I know, I know). Plenty of fans fit the bill here. 
 

A few sub-par performances, some players a bit out of form and some reverting back to their base level and they’re all worse than shite. 
 

People have quickly forgotten the dark days and want it all straight away, it seems. 

 

This is what I was getting at when I said 'some people would do well to remember the quote'

 

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

7 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

If we had quality replacements in before we sold him - maybe aye.

 

But to Saudi or another foreign club. Not a PL rival. And in 2025 at the earliest for whatever the big fees are of that time.

Would have felt a real sense of loss (ala Andy Cole levels, if not more) but we might have had Szoboszlai (forever “It’s-a-boss-lie,” said in Scouse accent in my head) plus one or two more first teamers if it had happened ?‍♂️

[TheBrownBottle]

6 hours ago, Wilson said:

 

It really isn't utter bollocks but if that's your view, so be it.  Each to their own.

Yeah sorry mate - bollocks was a bit strong on my part.  But I’ve never been fully onboard with the sentiment

[Flip]

Back to his season form last night. Probably needs to play Bolivia every night. 

[TRon]

On 11/09/2023 at 16:20, prefabtoon said:

Shows Bruno wants out if his advisors have inserted a 100mil release clause in his contract.

 

It's not that unreasonable. The only clubs who could afford that sort of release clause could probably pay him twice as much anyway. Hardly amounts to him wanting out.

[TheBrownBottle]

Funnily enough I think he’ll put a MOTM shift vs Brentford.  He’ll have a point to prove.  

[Coffee_Johnny]

21 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Funnily enough I think he’ll put a MOTM shift vs Brentford.  He’ll have a point to prove.  

Coming off confidence boosting international games, where pretty much everything came off for him, I think he’ll feel like a wolf amongst sheep. 

[Flip]

19 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Coming off confidence boosting international games, where pretty much everything came off for him, I think he’ll feel like a wolf amongst sheep. 

Eh, was very sloppy and had a rather average game against Peru. Not sure that is confidence boosting.

[Coffee_Johnny]

1 hour ago, Flip said:

Eh, was very sloppy and had a rather average game against Peru. Not sure that is confidence boosting.

Damn and blast you and your optimism-killing facts ?

 

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny

[Theregulars]

On 12/09/2023 at 15:42, TheBrownBottle said:

I never liked that mantra, and it doesn’t speak for all of us.

 

Mainly because it is utter bollocks - a team of triers losing every week would not be a popular one on Tyneside. 

Thank you - such a banal and basic worldview that gets used to bash anybody over the head for thinking differently or wanting more.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, Flip said:

Eh, was very sloppy and had a rather average game against Peru. Not sure that is confidence boosting.

 

What's the view in Brazil? Is his reputation growing despite the odd poor game or is the jury still out?

 

 

[Erikse]

I remember they were not too happy with him after some mistakes in the World Cup. I believe he missed a couple of big chances by a mile.

[Erikse]

[GEFAFWISP]

Lazy kinder nonce.

[Gazzaschicken]

45 minutes ago, Erikse said:

He will be fatigued then

[Mike]

Shows how injured Joe is imo.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Funny, you would think Rodri just stands in the middle and the game does what he tells it.