Bruno Guimarães

[Geogaddi]

Man United do have a far better squad than us to be fair ,we have a load of championship standard players still starting for us as times . The fact we are only 3 points behind them despite having an unprecedented injury crisis this season shows how much of a better manager we have than they do.

 

Bruno won't be going to Man United either way .  Only PSG or Man City can really afford him and he's wasting the rest of his career going to the French league so it depends if he wants the big payday, if Pep wants him then he will be off .

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Geogaddi

[Erikse]

6 minutes ago, Memphis said:

 

It does. Again, none of this is an accident. This was clever from Ashworth or whoever put it in there. It's designed to smoke out any potential clubs who want to buy Bruno early in the summer while also ensuring all the proceeds go towards this season's FFP calculations, allowing us the most possible flexibility in restructuring the squad. It works well for everyone imo.

 

Obviously someone could try to buy him after the deadline but at that point there is no incentive for us to sell or for them to buy at an inflated price. 

 

I don't want to give people anxiety here, but didn't Liverpool try to buy Caicedo for over £100m last summer, and then go for a much cheaper Endo instead? Did they spend much after that? Also, clubs can still sell players at the beginning of the window to free up funds? And also, there is an amortization system, so how much does it really affect this years books? Don't know that much about it.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Erikse

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I don't want to give people anxiety here, but didn't Liverpool try to buy Caicedo for over £100m last summer, and then go for a much cheaper Endo instead? Did they spend much after that? Also, clubs can still sell players at the beginning of the window to free up funds? And also, there is an amortization system, so how much does it really affect this years books? Don't know that much about it.

 

 

 

Yeh but that was in August.

[Mag3.14]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

I don't want to give people anxiety here, but didn't Liverpool try to buy Caicedo for over £100m last summer, and then go for a much cheaper Endo instead? Did they spend much after that? Also, clubs can still sell players at the beginning of the window to free up funds? And also, there is an amortization system, so how much does it really affect this years books? Don't know that much about it.

 

 

 

 

True, but them selling relies on a club having the financial clout being able to buy - I see something similar to January, unless there's 3rd party intervention (Saudi clubs possibly) The cartel 6 clubs (possibly excluding man city) will struggle to offload players before the FFP/PSR deadline to "smaller" clubs as they will be restricted in their spending until july 1st.   

[Gaztoon]

After June it's 150m

[Erikse]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Yeh but that was in August.

 

Hmm sorry, not following. What does that mean?

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Erikse

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, tgarve said:

I have a feeling he will go to man united 

 

He's being looked at by Arsenal, Man City, PSG and Real.

 

I think he'd burst out laughing at the idea of Man United.

 

I think Man City is where he ends up if he stays in the league, particularly because it seems Paqueta is headed there too.

 

Otherwise, I hope he leaves the league. Real don't seem 100% convinced by Tchouameni and so could see him at Real.

[Teslact]

Any chance the clause requires payment 100% upfront too? Would certainly rule most suitors out for PSR this season.

[Jonas]

If there's one thing more deflating, demoralising and depressing than being a selling club its being a club that doesn't need to sell, doesn't want to sell and only has to because of arbitrary new rules specifically geared towards forcing you to do so.

I'd have felt better with McKeag and co squirriling away and or wasting the money from Beardsley/Waddle/Gascoigne than a direct competitor shafting you.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Jonas

[nufcjb]

2 hours ago, Beth said:

How old are you? 12?

Oooo..look at me..the matured one who can't take a tongue in cheek post.

[Joe1984]

19 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Hmm sorry, not following. What does that mean?

 

 

 

It was before clubs started getting points deductions for FFP breaches.

 

[Beth]

He'll go to PSG. Played in France before, guaranteed to start every game and will get the best wage as well. At City he'd probably only start 60-70% of their games. 

[Yorkie]

1 minute ago, Jonas said:

If there's one thing more deflating, demoralising and depressing than being a selling club its being a club that doesn't need to sell, doesn't want to sell and only has to because of arbitrary new rules specifically geared towards forcing you to do so.

I'd have felt better with McKeag and co squirriling away and or wasting the money from Beardsley/Waddle/Gascoigne than this rather than a direct competitor shafting you.

 

I don't think this really applies in Bruno's case, personally. If you can make an absolute killing on an asset then it's in your interests to explore that. Like I said in my last post, that isn't new in football I don't think. Coutinho to Barca is the example that always comes to mind. 

[Beth]

1 minute ago, nufcjb said:

Oooo..look at me..the matured one who can't take a tongue in cheek post.

Ah but was it though? Backtracking quicker than an Italian tank.

[TheBrownBottle]

4 minutes ago, Jonas said:

If there's one thing more deflating, demoralising and depressing than being a selling club its being a club that doesn't need to sell, doesn't want to sell and only has to because of arbitrary new rules specifically geared towards forcing you to do so.

I'd have felt better with McKeag and co squirriling away and or wasting the money from Beardsley/Waddle/Gascoigne than a direct competitor shafting you.

 

 

 

The club would need to sell if another club meets the asking price and Bruno agrees to go

 

FFP regs didn’t force Bruno and his agent to insert that clause into his new deal …

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, Teslact said:

Any chance the clause requires payment 100% upfront too? Would certainly rule most suitors out for PSR this season.

Paying upfront doesn't change anything from a PSR perspective.

 

20 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Hmm sorry, not following. What does that mean?

 

 

 

Nevermind I misread what you wrote.

 

I *feel* like Liverpool were suggesting they could spend big to placate Klopp. And they lost out on wages anyway. The transfer story of the latest few years for them is being gazumped in the transfer market. And Klopp was never keen on the Edwards model either.

[jack j]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The club would need to sell if another club meets the asking price and Bruno agrees to go

 

FFP regs didn’t force Bruno and his agent to insert that clause into his new deal …

Aye but we'd more likely keep players like Bruno happy if the rules weren't put in to stop us signing more players of his calibre

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, jack j said:

Aye but we'd more likely keep players like Bruno happy if the rules weren't put in to stop us signing more players of his calibre

Yep, agreed - I’m definitely not an advocate for the current rules.  But this wouldn’t be someone being forced out of the club - they knew what they were doing having that clause inserted.  I also doubt that it was the club who made it public knowledge.  

[andyc35i]

8 minutes ago, Beth said:

He'll go to PSG. Played in France before, guaranteed to start every game and will get the best wage as well. At City he'd probably only start 60-70% of their games. 

Loves the city as well. My social media stalking has him always seemingly in Paris when he’s got time off 

[andyc35i]

Oh and he won’t go to Man Utd because they’re not an elite side. It’s a side step for his career right now and he deserves to play for a team that’s competing to win the big trophies 

[astraguy]

Dont see why any player now would really want to go to city with the 115 charges looming, Pep has one or two years max left IMO and I wouldn't be shocked if he fucked off at the end of the season before the court case tbh

[Erikse]

17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Paying upfront doesn't change anything from a PSR perspective.

 

Nevermind I misread what you wrote.

 

I *feel* like Liverpool were suggesting they could spend big to placate Klopp. And they lost out on wages anyway. The transfer story of the latest few years for them is being gazumped in the transfer market. And Klopp was never keen on the Edwards model either.

 

I feel like Liverpool could still make a signing like that before june 30th if they really wanted to, and not break the rules? Not sure if they would spend this much on a midfielder this window, though, but they intended to do it last summer when Caicedo chose Chelsea.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Erikse

[Fezzle]

9 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

Oh and he won’t go to Man Utd because they’re not an elite side. It’s a side step for his career right now and he deserves to play for a team that’s competing to win the big trophies 

He won't go cos they struggled in the summer with spending, don't seem able to pay much for Ashford and not a chance in hell they can spend £100m before the end of this season when his release expires. Tgarve was just ignoring that minor detail 

[The Prophet]

Liverpool had to borrow cash to pay the Szoboszlai fee up front. Not that they couldn't do it again like.

[The College Dropout]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I feel like Liverpool could still make a signing like that before june 30th if they really wanted to, and not break the rules? Not sure if they would spend this much on a midfielder this window, though, but they intended to do it last summer when Caicedo chose Chelsea.

 

 

 

I don’t think they will spend crazily.