Bruno Guimarães

[alexf]

Yeah disagree about 1 more good season out of him. He has zero pace as it is, so it's not like him slowing down due to age would really make a difference. He looks like the sort of player who will keep a similar steady level til mid 30's. 

[Sibierski]

24 minutes ago, janpawel said:

I know what you mean that this summer / next summer will be the last chance to get a big fee from him, but he's got years left performing at a high level for sure 

Years? He’ll be 28 come end of next season and not many Brazilian CMs go into their 30s at a high level. He doesn’t have much pace to lose. Next summer (2026) we’d have to commit to a £200k+ 4/5 year deal that would take him through to like 34, which would be a mistake IMO.

 

 

Edited March 12 by Sibierski

[janpawel]

9 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Years? He’ll be 28 come end of next season and not many Brazilian CMs go into their 30s at a high level. He doesn’t have much pace to lose. Next summer (2026) we’d have to commit to a £200k+ 4/5 year deal that would take him through to like 34, which would be a mistake IMO.

 

 

 

I know he's slow as a snail, but I feel his game doesn't revolve around his athleticism so much, compared to a Joelinton etc

 

Can see him being a bit like Gundogan in style, and going for a while longer. But who knows, he could do a Casemiro or be a Thiago Silva 

 

But I'd agree next summer will be the last time we can command a big fee for him

[Dr Venkman]

On 02/03/2025 at 08:10, Dr Venkman said:

You don’t sell players like Bruno unless it’s unavoidable. There are plenty of well documented reasons why, all I’d add is he doesn’t rely on pace so will be a top-tier player well into his 30s. 

Yeah. I did it.

[PauloGeordio]

[andyc35i]

It’s pretty pathetic that we have to even contemplate selling our captain to balance books that don’t actually need to be balanced. Bruno should be here for 10 years as the heartbeat of the club, overseeing us winning titles

[Sibierski]

But it wouldn't be selling to balance books if there's even a small substance to it. Be 2nd season of no UCL/Europe, in Brunos prime years where he would've been told we'd be in Europe at this point. So a mutual agreement that if an offer comes in for X value, club would sell. All part of attracting players here needs to be 'give us your all, and we won't stand in your way to leave if a good offer comes in".

 

Ideally you keep hold of main guys as you regularly qualify for Europe, compete for trophies and they go on a free/final year of deal for low value. We're not there, so realism needs to come into play. 

[huss9]

yeah if there's an agreement where he said he would stay another year to get CL then it at least needs the conversation with him if we dont make it.

[TRon]

23 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

But it wouldn't be selling to balance books if there's even a small substance to it. Be 2nd season of no UCL/Europe, in Brunos prime years where he would've been told we'd be in Europe at this point. So a mutual agreement that if an offer comes in for X value, club would sell. All part of attracting players here needs to be 'give us your all, and we won't stand in your way to leave if a good offer comes in".

 

Ideally you keep hold of main guys as you regularly qualify for Europe, compete for trophies and they go on a free/final year of deal for low value. We're not there, so realism needs to come into play. 

 

Plus he's 27 so like Barnes, there will only be a small window where we can get a really good fee for him. This is all down to PSR, otherwise we don't need to sell him at all. But if we want to continue to make signings, the only way under PSR restrictions is to make profits on players.

 

Ideally we qualify for the CL, that way we won't even need to consider selling.

[Dokko]

£60m for Bruno, £70m for Isak. Arsenal live on another planet. 

 

 

[Sibierski]

At his peak output and form, his release clause was £100m and teams were not interested. £60m feels too low considering there's still 3 years, think if we were to consider a sale something around £70m-£75m ball park would be required IMO. 

 

 

Edited March 13 by Sibierski

[Tiresias]

If we dont make Europe of course players want to leave. There is a difference between telling Bruno that we won't stand in his way if he wants to leave in these circumstances assuming an acceptable fee, and Bruno actually wanting to leave. 

 

We need to raise money to buy, we need to rebuild the squad. I am of a mind that if a player wants to leave, as long as we get a good fee fine, we should take the money and will replace. The only exception would be Isak whom still has huge value and more than that I don't think can be replaced. We just need to spend the profits on more players than we sell, we need to start having replacements for the star players already in when we sell in future so there's no disruption to the team. 

 

 

Edited March 13 by Tiresias

[timeEd32]

Pretty sure my son would fully succumb to becoming an Arsenal supporter if that happened. For that reason it simply can't happen.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, timeEd32 said:

Pretty sure my son would fully succumb to becoming an Arsenal supporter if that happened. For that reason it simply can't happen.

 

Believe me, we all lived through that as kids and growing older with NUFC. It's devastating at the time, but at least now we know we would use it to rebuild even stronger if possible. Imagine what it was like selling Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza etc when you knew it was just because we never thought we were big enough to keep them.

[OCOCOL]

3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

Pretty sure my son would fully succumb to becoming an Arsenal supporter if that happened. For that reason it simply can't happen.

 

You could always get another (more faithful) son...

 

Just kidding I assume you're a North London exile or your son likes Saka 

 

 

[OCOCOL]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Believe me, we all lived through that as kids and growing older with NUFC. It's devastating at the time, but at least now we know we would use it to rebuild even stronger if possible. Imagine what it was like selling Beardsley, Waddle, Gazza etc when you knew it was just because we never thought we were big enough to keep them.

 

I went to my first match in 1987 and loved Gazza and Waddle (to a lesser degree), Beardsley round one had already been sold. I'd never have followed another English club but I do get it as I had Marseille and Lazio tops once they had furthered their careers outside of England (this was at a time when we were still banned or the likelihood of Newcastle playing in Europe was a nigh on impossible scenario)

[Charlies]

speaks really well 

[timeEd32]

3 hours ago, OCOCOL said:

 

You could always get another (more faithful) son...

 

Just kidding I assume you're a North London exile or your son likes Saka 

 

 

 

Loves Saka, which I can't blame him for. But loves Bruno more than anyone.

[Earp]

1 hour ago, Charlies said:

speaks really well 

I think he'd self-combust if we won.

[huss9]

7 hours ago, Charlies said:

speaks really well 

get her a job at the club,

so much better than that lad we have.

[Decky]

I don't think I've wanted anything more on my Newcastle supporting life than to see this man be the first captain in decades to lift a cup.

[Superior Acuña]

18 minutes ago, huss9 said:

get her a job at the club,

so much better than that lad we have.

 

She's a well established journalist, she's not going to be working as our in-house.

[huss9]

4 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

 

She's a well established journalist, she's not going to be working as our in-house.

she a sky regular?

[Superior Acuña]

12 minutes ago, huss9 said:

she a sky regular?

 

Yeah Sky and others. I'm mostly familiar with her from the Totally Football Show. Seems to have a good relationship with most of the Brazilians over here.

[Heron]

Such a loveable chap.