Guest neesy111 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Yeah but this is an accumulation now, knocked out by Lyon, then lost a final they were expected to win and then tonight Think it will hurt them this time I get what your thinking is, but I don't see it personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Wow, just watched the City-RM match. I DVR'd it while working today. What a game, I thought a Liverpool-City final would have been fantastic since that is also the league final so to speak. I think City will knock us into row Z this weekend. Both of those teams were so good. Edited May 4, 2022 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Disco said: Adds a lot of spice to the title race mind. Would be neither surprise if City melt or batter everyone 5 nowt. Genuinely hope they get the title over those scouse cunts. Even if that means beating us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Get in Real Madrid, and Carlo is some boy, what a manager he is. Hopefully they will batter LFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Pep is shit when it comes to the CL, how they fucked this up is as monumentally bad. Sadly I think they were the best bet to beat LFC in the final! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 As long as City win the league or Real win the CL, it'll be slightly more bearable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Feel a bit gutted for Guardiola. He always comes over as a really good guy and I love the football that they play. I hope that they win the PL even if it means us losing on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Guardiola to me always comes across as a freak and a weirdo. Find him unsettling tbh. Plus I despise his constant demand for things like B teams - which flies in the face of the football pyramid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I almost stopped watching. Real gave absolutely nothing until the 89th minute. City totally controlled them. In retrospect those Grealish misses are monumental. At the time it seemed insignificant. It’s telling that they lost it completely at ET too. Didn’t create many chances at all. Rush of blood type foul for the penalty. Foden kept shaking his head and looking dazed. Their heads were gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I wonder how Odegaard feels. A lot of his generation at Madrid have come up big in the CL run and have been given more game time. Vini, Rodrygo, Valverde really coming good now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: Fuck hoping we lose (this weekend) in order to help City win the league. Madness. Why not just hope both City and Liverpool both lose. ? Lose to Citeh coz Liverpool, lose to Burnley coz Everton - RTG gets battered for caring more about what happens to us than their own club. There appears to be a danger of something Mackemesque developing on here regarding Scousers! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I recently read Brilliant Orange: The Neurotic Genius of Dutch Football and it struck me how there's a link from Dutch football in the 70s via Cruyff to Guardiola. The book talks about how it's not enough to win but you have to do it the right way and that Dutch football was also on a mission to show the world how football should be played. Maybe I'm overthinking things but it certainly struck a cord when I was reading it and City's performances in the Champions League. Jan Jongbloed, is an example of what I mean and is something I could see Guardiola doing. Jongbloed made his debut in 1962 where he played for 4 minutes and never featured again until 1974 when he was aged 33. Pretty nondescript career where he played for minor Dutch teams (this at a time when the keepers at Ajax and Feyenoord were winning European trophies) but was selected for both World Cup Finals in the 1970's as he was good with the ball at his feet and could act as a sweeper; there was little consideration given to his abilities as a shot stopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: Fuck hoping we lose (this weekend) in order to help City win the league. Madness. Why not just hope both City and Liverpool both lose. It's weird. I couldn't care less about the who wins the title out of those two so I'll keep everything crossed that we cause an upset this Sunday. Conversely, I'd still find it hilarious if Everton goes down so I'd be totally fine with us throwing the final game against Burnley if it helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 4 hours ago, HTT II said: Get in Real Madrid, and Carlo is some boy, what a manager he is. Hopefully they will batter LFC. I'd be utterly amazed if Liverpool don't beat them by at least 3 goals. I genuinely have no idea how Real have made it to the final playing the way they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: I'd be utterly amazed if Liverpool don't beat them by at least 3 goals. I genuinely have no idea how Real have made it to the final playing the way they do. They have an outstanding goalkeeper and manager. Apart from that, they’ve got quality dotted round the pitch but their squad needs a huge overhaul. This is their last year for a while getting to the latter stages of the CL I think. I don’t think they’ll get battered at all in the final, think it’ll be really tight but the pace of Liverpool’s forwards and their pressing will probably be enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: They have an outstanding goalkeeper and manager. Apart from that, they’ve got quality dotted round the pitch but their squad needs a huge overhaul. This is their last year for a while getting to the latter stages of the CL I think. I don’t think they’ll get battered at all in the final, think it’ll be really tight but the pace of Liverpool’s forwards and their pressing will probably be enough Man City should have hammered them last night, if as other people have already pointed out, they used a proper striker. I'm not even sure how Chelsea didn't hammer them either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Very interesting stat that. Often find general stats like that to be a bit pointless but that suggests a major mentality issue like you say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 City could've probably got Luis Diaz and Darwin Nunez and had money to spare for the price they spent on Jack Grealish, they've shot themselves in the foot at the start of the season and they were made the pay for it in recent times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 It was totally bizarre how they threw it away. Like others, I was pretty much about to turn it off on 85 minutes. They were quite complacent I thought. It was like they were playing in second gear, thinking it was won. The first leg was shocking from their part. Should’ve been 4-0 up before Real scored. People will point to the last few minutes and ET, but they caused a massive issue for themselves with the first leg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) They wasted time from the first minute. Taking forever at goal kicks. A big reason for bringing on Grealish is to win fouls imo. The flaws here are structural and fundamental rather than tactical imo. Pep is obsessed with controlling football matches as much as possible with the ball at feet. All the players have to buy into his philosophy 100%. He doesn’t sign any players that are blessed physically, it’s all this narrow way of working and improving this particular machine. Everyone has to differ to Pep and the system and they therefore lack a bit of individual character. They can’t rely on character to get themselves out of a hole. And Pep hasn’t wanted a serious plan B. Signing Haaland is a positive step. An individual. But Peps sides are always going to vulnerable to not being able to cope when control is lost. The final is going to be contested by the best teams at thriving in chaos. Rather than the 2 best teams period. Future looks bright for Madrid. Courtois, Alaba, Rudiger, Militao, Mendy, Camavinga, Valverde (this lad reminds me of Klopp’s PED boys - one of the most athletic players I’ve ever seen), Vinicius, Rodrygo then add Mbappe. With that they just need another central midfielder and some depth at RB. Camavinga is an amazing talent. He can rotate with the old guard for another year. Their recent policy of big bets on teenagers/youngsters and established stars on frees or a year left on contract has largely been successful (Hazard the obvious exception). Edited May 5, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: It was totally bizarre how they threw it away. Like others, I was pretty much about to turn it off on 85 minutes. They were quite complacent I thought. It was like they were playing in second gear, thinking it was won. The first leg was shocking from their part. Should’ve been 4-0 up before Real scored. People will point to the last few minutes and ET, but they caused a massive issue for themselves with the first leg. They’re not a clinical team because the attack are all essentially midfielders. They don’t have a Salah, Jota or Mane. The closest they have to that aren’t fancied generally or as clinical (Sterling or Jesus). Relying on KDB, Foden to shoot them to CL finals. But aye there was a reason Benzema had a big smile after he scored the 4-3 and it ended the same. Madrid knew that was a good scoreline. But also bring 2-0 up essentially on 89 minutes and the other team haven’t had a shot on target. They were through. Everyone thought it. But when a Pep team goes, they GO. Likewise Madrid are like sharks to blood. It’s in their DNA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Shearergol said: Man City should have hammered them last night, if as other people have already pointed out, they used a proper striker. I'm not even sure how Chelsea didn't hammer them either. In a couple of years time, you will be in the CL. You will have an opportunity to play them. You will look at your squad, Eddie Howe's tactics, Madrid's not so good squad and think - you know what, nothing to worry here. First half will go along as you expected. You will lead 2-0. In the half time, there will be a lot of posts wondering what the fuss is all about. Second half will start and suddenly unexplainable things will happen - their right back will do a scissor kick ending in the top corner. Before you know it, you will be 2-4. They have a cosmic force of attraction towards that CL trophy which no other club has. Their mentality in this competition is the best there is. They could play their B team and you cant write that team off. Second, I presume all of you believe that referees favor big 6 in the PL, including us. I am not going to argue that and I agree. But you aint seen referees favoring a side until you play Madrid. It is like the refs believe the natural order of things involves Madrid winning the competition and it is their role to ensure so. Every arm, shoulder from their side to us, refs will be signaling for us to get up. Slightest touch on their players and the rolling starts and the yellow card come out. Their player will kung fu tackle Bruno and potentially break his shoulder. Ref "Football is a contact sport mate". Casemiro will use his studs and create a gash on Bruno's leg and Bruno will get a yellow card. I am not talking from jealously or frustration here. Their reputation and mentality in such games is unmatched. And they have earned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Was browsing YouTube and was recommended the video below of Spanish commentary. Absolute scenes from around 2.30 minutes mark Fair play to the YouTube algorithm they pulled it out the bag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I’m not sure you can blame the ref for the defending for the first goal and that was definitely a penalty on Benzema. Making that tackle was extremely dumb, even if it was marginal, have to be smarter than that I don't think the ref necessarily got any big calls wrong The failure to book Casemiro was baffling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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