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[SteV]

 

Brexit Jim thinks nobody’s interested in them….

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c628r3gz49mo

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by SteV

[Dancing Brave]

12 hours ago, et tu brute said:

Their mods are just as bad as the members 

 

[et tu brute]

13 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said:

 

No racist cunt, you were beaten 3-0, because your team was (is) full of championship standard players. It's also the reason why they will be struggling to get to Derby's record, and will be back to their level, this time next year.

[deejeck]

1 hour ago, et tu brute said:

No racist cunt, you were beaten 3-0, because your team was (is) full of championship standard players. It's also the reason why they will be struggling to get to Derby's record, and will be back to their level, this time next year.

Another way to look at it is that we were in fairly atrocious form at the time and had lost seven of the last eight games in league and cup, and yet we still comfortably put them away three nowt on their own patch. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

They were absolutely rotten that day, it very much looked like a team at the top of the PL vs a team languishing in no mans land in the league below. Funny that.

[GeordieDazzler]

2 hours ago, Dancing Brave said:

 

Weren’t we on a run of ten without a win going into that game and in the middle of an unprecedented injury crisis?
 

I remember thinking at the time they might not ever get such favourable conditions to play us again. 

[Paully]

12 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Weren’t we on a run of ten without a win going into that game and in the middle of an unprecedented injury crisis?
 

I remember thinking at the time they might not ever get such favourable conditions to play us again. 

Yeo - Some of my good mates thought they’d us!

 

Tripps was bang out of form and the number of times I heard in the build up about how Jack Clarke was going to torture him was mental! 
 

Did he even play? Ha ha!

[Chicken Dancer]

59 minutes ago, Paully said:

Yeo - Some of my good mates thought they’d us!

 

Tripps was bang out of form and the number of times I heard in the build up about how Jack Clarke was going to torture him was mental! 
 

Did he even play? Ha ha!

 

All I heard was how Hume was going to knack Gordon. All Gordon done was skip by him constantly and get his shirt ripped off his back...by Hume 

 

Even now loads of them are falling into that trap of completely overrating the players we have, I seen someone yesterday say their defence is sound for the Premier League. I'm sure Haaland, Salah & Isak are trembling at the thought.

 

I, like many others, obviously fancy the likes of Wolves & Brentford to take them to the cleaners. They'll win a few games at home but it won't be enough. I'll be staggered if they get close to 40 points.

[Tisd09]

The really do think some of their players are "all that" I am pretty sure O'Nien will be on toast most weeks. A few red cards incoming for him. That Hume the times I have seen him has looked half decent to be fair, think he could go on to be a decent PL player but you'd swear blind he was the next Roberto Carlos. 

[RodneyCisse]

O’nines decline will be a brilliant watch, a bit like watching him walk with dog poo during a full interview.

[Tisd09]

I can seem him and Nicklas Jackson getting on like a house on fire 

[Fak]

Fancy them to do West Ham tbh.

[Chicken Dancer]

2 minutes ago, Fak said:

Fancy them to do West Ham tbh.

 

It's definitely a game you'd want to kick off a gruelling season, but as I said yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if West Ham won at a bit of a canter.

 

The most talented 11 players on the pitch will all be West Ham players, that's a fact. Anything can happen in a one-off game, but the gulf in quality is still absolutely massive. With the exception of maybe Leeds & Burnley - and despite what the mackems might tell you - there isn't 1 sunderland player that would start for any other Premier League side. They will strengthen for sure, but as will everybody else. 

 

If anything it would be quite funny to watch them get giddy from beating West Ham & how this PL is 'easy marra', only to be sick of their lives by the time we roll into town in December.

 

They're priced at 2/9 with Paddy Power to be relegated. I've looked for a while but can't find any odds to stay up, but I will be interested to see what they're priced as. You have to go back to 2013 to find a side that's been promoted with less points than sunderland achieved last year. I know it's all relative based on the performance of the other teams in the league, but they're a poor side who will be lucky to get anywhere near 40pts. I'm sure I read they only won 5 or so games by more than 1 goal, which is quite telling.

[Benwell Lad]

5 minutes ago, Fak said:

Fancy them to do West Ham tbh.

 

Of course strange results can occasionally happen but recently even teams which have been promoted automatically, on merit over the season, have struggled terribly to bridge the huge gap in quality.

Sunderland finished 24 points behind the automatic places and 16 behind the team in third position. In both play off ties the other teams looked better than them, but they somehow fluked it, assisted massively by horrendous errors which led to them scoring.

They may fluke a win against West Ham as well but their players are light years away from being PL standard.

[Fak]

I'm not saying they'll stay up, just saying I fancy them to get a result against West Ham.

[Doctor Zaius]

I think people predicting them to finish with a record low number of points are off tbh.

 

Their football is way more suited to a PL relegation battle than Southampton, who came up and tried to play football or Sheffield United who were completely figured out under Wilder and he couldn't adapt. They sit in deep and hit teams on the break at pace. That alone will allow them to pick up results here and there. I think Le Bris fairly tactically astute too. 

 

Not that they'll stay up like, they'll go down without too much of a fight imo but I don't think it'll be an embarrassment.

[David Edgar]

Bookies are leaning that way heavily. It isn't just our bias.

[Chicken Dancer]

1 minute ago, Doctor Zaius said:

I think people predicting them to finish with a record low number of points are off tbh.

 

Their football is way more suited to a PL relegation battle than Southampton, who came up and tried to play football or Sheffield United who were completely figured out under Wilder and he couldn't adapt. They sit in deep and hit teams on the break at pace. That alone will allow them to pick up results here and there. I think Le Bris fairly tactically astute too. 

 

Not that they'll stay up like, they'll go down without too much of a fight imo but I don't think it'll be an embarrassment.

 

Agree with all of that. But Le Bris will be gone before even we play them imo, they're very quick to bin off managers. A few bad results and they'll be frothing at the mouth for him to fuck off and to bring in Big Sam to save them.

 

There was a call for him to go before the playoffs on RTG, man. 

 

At best they'll finish 19th with about 26pts I reckon.

[Sima]

Managers will be too savvy these days and know that if you score early there (and there will be opportunities), that place turns toxic sharply and you can score a second before HT and coast to three points.

 

I haven’t got a list of all the managers in the Premier League the last time they were there but I bet there was a right load of shite at some of the clubs.  The standard is significantly higher now.

[et tu brute]

11 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

 

All I heard was how Hume was going to knack Gordon. All Gordon done was skip by him constantly and get his shirt ripped off his back...by Hume 

 

Even now loads of them are falling into that trap of completely overrating the players we have, I seen someone yesterday say their defence is sound for the Premier League. I'm sure Haaland, Salah & Isak are trembling at the thought.

 

I, like many others, obviously fancy the likes of Wolves & Brentford to take them to the cleaners. They'll win a few games at home but it won't be enough. I'll be staggered if they get close to 40 points.

Currently, not one (genuinely) of their players are of Premier League standard. They are either kidding themselves, don't watch games or are just clueless. They say Le Fee, for one they were slagging him of during periods of last season, and two, he was signed by Roma last summer, played very limited minutes and then was shipped off four months later, as they obviously didn't think he was good enough.

They didn't learn from the Clark situation, when they were stating he was worth £40 million, and yet didn't even get half of that amount. They have already lost two players and yet have had to spend roughly £25 million, to sign Le Fee and pay Birmingham 15%, so impacting on the fees received.
 

I'll be staggered currently, if they actually didn't beat Derby's record total. Got nothing to do with me hating the cunts, they are a nowhere near even a top Championship team, never mind one who can even attempt to compete in the Premier League. They're not going to spend a fortune, as that's not the current club model of signing cheap and then hopefully sell on with a decent profit. They were pretty lucky to get up from the play offs and finished 24 points behind Burnley and Leeds. I fully expect fans to have some hope, but these thick fuckers are genuinely talking about staying up comfortably (even

mid table according to some) and spending up to £100 million in the transfer market. I'll not even go on about the stadium extension, one of the most laughable threads, concerning a club who will be back in the Championship this time next year, have crowds half of their capacity for midweek games, and have an ownership, which aren't going to spend a decent amount of money, on something not required. 
 

They are in for a massive wake up call this season coming. The league is on a different level to the last time they stank the place out. They are favourites to finish 20th and there's nothing to suggest they won't, and by quite a margin also.

[et tu brute]

16 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

I think people predicting them to finish with a record low number of points are off tbh.

 

Their football is way more suited to a PL relegation battle than Southampton, who came up and tried to play football or Sheffield United who were completely figured out under Wilder and he couldn't adapt. They sit in deep and hit teams on the break at pace. That alone will allow them to pick up results here and there. I think Le Bris fairly tactically astute too. 

 

Not that they'll stay up like, they'll go down without too much of a fight imo but I don't think it'll be an embarrassment.

Totally, totally disagree as I've just said above

 

 

Edited 34 minutes ago by et tu brute

[deejeck]

36 minutes ago, Fak said:

Fancy them to do West Ham tbh.

Yeah, I was looking at that screenshot of their opening fixtures and thinking that it's a possibility that they could have four points on the board by the time they've played Burnley.  It'll unravel pretty badly for them after that.