General NUFC stuff

[TheBrownBottle]

If Rangers and Celtic entered the PL they’d have the same issues as us - they would struggle to make up the financial ground on the ‘Big Six’.  They are nowhere near as big globally as Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea.  I know they think they are, but they don’t have anything like that worldwide reach.  To get it, they’d need many years of success in the PL and in Europe.  The ‘social media’ followers thing is always interesting - Leicester are obviously there as a hangover from their surprise title win (people tend not to ‘unfollow’), but Rangers and Celtic have followings about the size of Burnley.

 

A few decades ago they were undoubtedly in any conversation re ‘big clubs’ in British terms.  Now they have neither the reach nor visibility of Bournemouth.  Sure, joining a hypothetical British PL would give them a boost - but there’s nothing to suggest they’d outperform Everton or Villa or Leeds.  If anything, the sad act glory seekers in their support would disappear - as would the even sadder ‘second club’ brigade from south of the border.  It would be interesting to see just how deep the support is, shorn of success for an extended period. 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:54 by TheBrownBottle

[TheBrownBottle]

NB I think it is desperately sad what has happened to Scottish football over the last few decades - as it is for any smaller European country (and especially the decimation of the leagues in Eastern Europe).  Money and TV broadcasts have concentrated eyes and exposure on a handful of countries - and even there in a handful of clubs.  The game is far, far poorer for the loss of general competitiveness - though Celtic and Rangers have of course contributed to the plight of Scottish football  

[Chapo]

36 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Honestly not sure which debate is more tiresome like. The biggest clubs one, or the Lampard, Gerrard, or Scholes one. 

Up there with, Die Hard, a Christmas film or not. 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:08 by Chapo

[TheBrownBottle]

12 hours ago, Chapo said:

Up there with, Die Hard, a Christmas film or not. 

 

 

 

I’ve always wondered why the edgelords who want Die Hard to be a Xmas movie never add Lethal Weapon to the list.

[Paullow]

17 hours ago, Nucasol said:

Cat amongst pigeons time - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c337xrmr5keo

 

Discuss…

 

As others say, you can use pretty much any metric to support a case, but I think the above list looks reasonable. It's hard to gauge where Rangers and Celtic fit in because of the league they play in and current finances but their respective positions seem fine.

 

In terms of England, I think most would have this top 3 as their top 3 and in that order. I'd have Man City and Chelsea next in any order you want, then Spurs a level below that, but also above the next group and then Aston Villa, Everton and Newcastle 7-9 in any order you want, followed by West Ham and Leeds a level below that.

[The Prophet]

Not bad from our PoV.

[Yorkie]

[Pilko]

[HaydnNUFC]

Piano music over the top of it for some reason but an hour’s worth of footage of us winning 1-2 at Everton on Good Friday, 1955.

 

 

[The Prophet]

 

[gbandit]

COO at Man U in recent years? Doesn’t sound great

[JT24]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

At least she knows how to deliver a new stadium announcement 

[JT24]

Quote

Collette Roche, the Manchester United chief operating officer, has emerged as one of the candidates for the chief executive role at Newcastle United, Telegraph Sport understands.

Newcastle are searching for a new chief executive to lead the club after it emerged last September that Darren Eales would be stepping down after being diagnosed with blood cancer. Eales is continuing in his post until a successor is found.

 

Vinai Venkatesham, the former Arsenal chief executive, has been linked with the position, which is believed to have attracted considerable interest.

Newcastle are conducting a thorough search and Eales, who worked previously at Tottenham and Atlanta United, and has a long notice period, has spoken about how he has not wanted to leave the club “in the lurch”.

 

Roche is thought to have been among several names linked with the chief executive role at Everton before the appointment in March of Angus Kinnear, who is officially due to start in June after eight years at Leeds United.

Roche’s role at Old Trafford has been expanded since Ineos acquired a minority stake in the club last year. She has assumed a much more hands-on role in football operations since the exit of Dan Ashworth as sporting director in December and has also been a key figure in the delivery of a £50 million revamp of United’s Carrington training base.

This has been on top of the leading role she has been playing in United’s new £2 billion stadium project and chairmanship of the board of the Manchester United Foundation, the club’s charitable arm.

Manchester United declined to comment when asked about Roche being in the running for the Newcastle role. Roche, who joined United in 2018 from Manchester Airport, where she had been managing director, is said to remain fully engaged in United’s operations and has integrated well into the new leadership group.

There is no suggestion of her being pushed out, even if she is now the sole survivor from the executive leadership team that existed prior to the strategic review that ultimately led to Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s Ineos taking a 28.94 per cent stake in the club.

In March, it emerged that United’s people and transformation director Annie Hale, commercial director Florence Lafaye and chief commercial development officer James Holroyd were all to leave the club in the latest shake-up of senior management.

Those departures followed the exits in the previous 15 months of numerous senior figures including Richard Arnold as the club’s chief executive and football director John Murtough.

Ashworth was brought in as Murtough’s replacement but lasted just five months as sporting director.

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 19:18 by JT24

[SteV]

Be worth it just to see Brexit Jim’s reaction if she doesn’t have any gardening leave contracted.

[joeyt]

Sir Les at Whitley Bay Playhouse tonight. 

 

Absolutely fantastic night

[Ronaldo]

How many times did he defend Mike Ashley?