Big River Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 42 minutes ago, Froggy said: I wish everyone would stop pretending to know what he did for you. The speculation is off the charts on here, but reputable sources were glowing about his impact. Very different situation where he literally lasted a few months at us. well we know what he didn't do here... yet the media and man utd fans were falling over themselves to give him credit for identifying and signing Isak, Bruno, Botman, Gordon etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, Big River said: well we know what he didn't do here... yet the media and man utd fans were falling over themselves to give him credit for identifying and signing Isak, Bruno, Botman, Gordon etc Yeah, exactly. We all knew he wasn't really as involved in recruitment. But likely helped put departments in place and staffed them, as we had none of that under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 You've looked pretty poor since he's left. Maybe he was the chosen one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Froggy said: You've looked pretty poor since he's left. Maybe he was the chosen one. you must be pretty worried seeing where you are before he left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Froggy said: You've looked pretty poor since he's left. Maybe he was the chosen one. Confusing him with David Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 26 minutes ago, Froggy said: You've looked pretty poor since he's left. Maybe he was the chosen one. You’ve looked pretty poor since he joined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Froggy said: I wish everyone would stop pretending to know what he did for you. The speculation is off the charts on here, but reputable sources were glowing about his impact. Very different situation where he literally lasted a few months at us. Obviously not as reputable as us 💅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Obviously not as reputable as us 💅 Please don't come for the only thing we have left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Froggy said: Please don't come for the only thing we have left. By losing Ashworth you've not lost what you thought you were gaining when he arrived imo. As we said at the time (just getting that in there) he's basically a facilitator. He seems to be very good at that, but the stuff that still gets attributed to him (scouting and signings mainly) is well wide of the mark. When he came here the Brighton forums were saying that, then not long after we were saying exactly the same. Edited December 13, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Froggy, think of a wheel right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 That garden must be immaculate by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 28 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Froggy, think of a wheel right... @Froggyhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fyjm5yifM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Rio Ferdinand classic… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 16 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Rio Ferdinand classic… cant remember who it was but someone told me to search his “ballon d’or” clip from last season. Somehow it’s even more cringeworthy than the video you’ve posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Ferdinand is right up there with Ladbaby for the most irritating useless things in the UK just now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Wednesday at 13:57 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:57 So £5.5m to us for his services and £4.1m to dispose of him 159 days later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:01 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: So £5.5m to us for his services and £4.1m to dispose of him 159 days later Where has the £5.5m come from? £4.1m were the total costs for Ashworth's involvement with us. Including hiring and firing costs. Newcastle got ~£2m for him. Still bad of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Wednesday at 14:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:04 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Where has the £5.5m come from? £4.1m were the total costs for Ashworth's involvement with us. Including hiring and firing costs. Newcastle got ~£2m for him. Still bad of course. Just seen a couple of tweets today. Obviously could be repeating a lie. I assumed it must’ve come from the accounts announce today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Wednesday at 14:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:06 Just now, LFEE said: Just seen a couple of tweets today. Obviously could be repeating a lie. I assumed it must’ve come from the accounts announce today? Aye, £4.1m in total for Ashworth which included compensation to Newcastle and severance. Minging. Accounts also showed that we've now crossed the £1b mark in interest payments from Glazer debt since 2005, and debt now stands at >£1b. Without the INEOS injection, cash balance would be non-existent. A sorry state of affairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Wednesday at 14:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:07 Total costs in this set of accounts. Reckon wl be back here next year to find thry are still paying us for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted Wednesday at 14:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:17 No way did we only get 2 million for him either , we had both Ashworth and that despicable freak running the club over a barrel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted Wednesday at 15:36 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:36 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: No way did we only get 2 million for him either , we had both Ashworth and that despicable freak running the club over a barrel. With us beside them and PSR unbuckling its belt behind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted Wednesday at 15:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:40 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: No way did we only get 2 million for him either , we had both Ashworth and that despicable freak running the club over a barrel. There's conflicting reports. Some said £2m initially, then I think in December there was some noise about £5m and the lower figure being used by Man Utd sources for a PR win. The £4.1m figure indicates to me that it doesn't include the comp Man Utd paid to us. He had 18 months gardening leave at Newcastle, so presumably a 18 month notice period, and an annual salary of £1.5m. Assuming similar structure at Man Utd that would put his total cost at: £0.75m 6 months base salary £2.25m PILON £0.40m E'er NI =£3.4m total cost to Man Utd excluding comp to Newcastle I would assume he received a significant pay rise when moving to Man Utd to bridge the gap to £4.1m. Of course there could've been a negotiated settlement to allow him to return to work earlier for a smaller notice period pay off but I doubt he's in any rush to get another job. The Daily Mail reporter claiming his sources say it includes the comp paid to Newcastle only appears to report on Man Utd, so his sources would be questionable at best given the £2m vs. £5m ambiguity. The truth is that none of us really know. It's guesswork at best and sources on both sides are dodgy due to how publicly it played out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Wednesday at 15:46 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:46 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Aye, £4.1m in total for Ashworth which included compensation to Newcastle and severance. Minging. Accounts also showed that we've now crossed the £1b mark in interest payments from Glazer debt since 2005, and debt now stands at >£1b. Without the INEOS injection, cash balance would be non-existent. A sorry state of affairs. Good to see PSR is working as intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Wednesday at 17:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:53 2 hours ago, TRon said: Good to see PSR is working as intended. PSR allows a £105m loss every year doesn't it? Not sure debt is capped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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