AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Everyone accepts that it was unfair on people with non-desk jobs. I just hope those people are actually benefitting. It’s hard to know what the numbers and proportions are. Like, are the tickets going to people who spent last season frozen out and angry, or just people who fancy the match now it’s easier? Either way they won’t go back to the queue now, and they can’t really use any measure of loyalty after this season, if attendance is random. Second hope is that it doesn’t effect the atmosphere too much with people unable to go regularly and sitting in a different area each time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieDoor Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Wonder how this member resale works tomorrow, back to queue system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, OCOCOL said: I only know of pne person out of about 15 that wasn't successful in the ballot - makes me think that purchase history must be taken into account - these are all former season ticket holders / regular past attendees. Definitely not the case I reckon. I had my ST for about 15 years, 45 points, and purchase history last year too....didn't get one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 minute ago, JackieDoor said: Wonder how this member resale works tomorrow, back to queue system? If it is… 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Focussing on the people fortunate to have jobs who can log-in for 10am though. Fair that I should miss out on pretty much every game due to work? Bollocks sorry. The old system was fine or at least much better than the new one but I agree they should’ve mixed the times up each game rather than 10am every time. Still I’m surprised you didn’t have anyone to log in for you whilst you were at work for the 10am slot? I would’ve helped you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Everyone accepts that it was unfair on people with non-desk jobs. I just hope those people are actually benefitting. It’s hard to know what the numbers and proportions are. Like, are the tickets going to people who spent last season frozen out and angry, or just people who fancy the match now it’s easier? Either way they won’t go back to the queue now, and they can’t really use any measure of loyalty after this season, if attendance is random. Second hope is that it doesn’t effect the atmosphere too much with people unable to go regularly and sitting in a different area each time. Surely if the ballot is truly random, with no ranking criteria applied, then no one ‘type’ of group will benefit on a consistent basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieDoor Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheGuv said: If it is… 🙃 It surely will be, if they do a 3 day ballot again you wouldn't know until the day before the game if you are going, not that i think the club care about that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I'm still quite vexed over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SteV said: Surely if the ballot is truly random, with no ranking criteria applied, then no one ‘type’ of group will benefit on a consistent basis? Potentially it's the worst of both worlds. If someone couldn't log on at 10am, or didn't have a friend who was available at 10am that they could link to, then now they've got to cross their fingers in the random ballot. So how many people who were frustrated at being locked out by the old system, are now chuffed to be going to the Villa match ? Personally, I don't know a single one. Edited August 7, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I don’t know how the Club came up with this ‘solution’ though? Where was the consultation with members? (There was none. Yet there was a safe standing and away loyalty point consultation). How had the old system been flagged as an issue if there was no consultation? Someone has dropped a clanger at the Club and we’re none the wiser. Is anyone genuinely happy with this alternative? Or is it just the Club who are happy as they’ve made a few extra £ for new memberships? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) If the concern was that people couldn't log in at 10am due to work commitments possibly have two windows? The usual at 10am and another at 6pm? They could share out the available seats fairly across the two windows. Edited August 7, 2023 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TheGuv said: I don’t know how the Club came up with this ‘solution’ though? Where was the consultation with members? (There was none. Yet there was a safe standing and away loyalty point consultation). How had the old system been flagged as an issue if there was no consultation? Someone has dropped a clanger at the Club and we’re none the wiser. Is anyone genuinely happy with this alternative? Or is it just the Club who are happy as they’ve made a few extra £ for new memberships? There was a home tickets forum. Don’t personally know anyone that was at it, so can’t say if the changes are reflective of what was discussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) I mean, if I had been on that forum I would probably have said the 10am login was unfair. Just sucks to go every week and then a couple of months later you’re nowhere again. Edited August 7, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieDoor Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 A tiered membership would have been fairer on the people who have attended loads of games, a supporter of another club has just as much a chance as a die hard NUFC fan now which isn't right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sima said: If the concern was that people couldn't log in at 10am due to work commitments possibly have two windows? The usual at 10am and another at 6pm? They could share out the available seats fairly across the two windows. But then the people who work desk jobs, just get 2 go’s instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, JackieDoor said: A tiered membership would have been fairer on the people who have attended loads of games, a supporter of another club has just as much a chance as a die hard NUFC fan now which isn't right. Then people would have to pay more money to become a gold member? Wouldn’t that be unfair on people who couldn’t afford to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Then people would have to pay more money to become a gold member? Wouldn’t that be unfair on people who couldn’t afford to? Jump up the tiers the more points you collect? It doesn’t have to be done in the form of a Catholic Indulgence payment to skip the queue. If I spend a certain amount on my Amex Blue card, I get more points. The more I fly with BA I can move into a different Tier from Bronze - Silver - Gold. If I don’t use it. I lose it. Not sure why the club can’t think of something along this sort of model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Then people would have to pay more money to become a gold member? Wouldn’t that be unfair on people who couldn’t afford to? Tiered in this instance means you would build up some sort of recognition for previous purchase history or unsuccessful ticket applications, giving easier access to tickets for people who historically have been regular match goers Cos at the moment you have 3 groups that are vastly different. 1) season ticket holders 2) people who can afford the very expensive hospitality tickets 3) anyone else (NUFC fan, neutral or away fan) can pay their £37 membership and be on an equal footing in the lucky dip If you're not a season ticket holder, or able to splash £200+ on a hospitality ticket, then you might as well have zero history of supporting the club Edited August 7, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 There are a load of ways they could have done this, and rewarded loyalty to previous members. But NUFC, regardless of ownership, has never rewarded loyalty of members, and that doesn't like its going to be changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: I totally get why the 10am weekday time was unfair for some Would you have been able to log in if they'd moved sale times to evenings or weekends ? Or if they'd kept 10am weekdays could you have linked your account to someone who could log on at that time ? I was always able to make myself available at sale time, so got tickets for pals who weren't There was easy workarounds to the old system, if people were determined to get a ticket they probably could. But now it's 100% down to luck. No level of control over how likely you are to get a ticket, or where you'll be sitting in the ground. He might have been able to while others then couldn’t. That’s potentially just shifting the problem from him to someone else. Unfortunately ballot is the fairest option for everyone even tho I was against it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Failed in the ballot with a £74 choice, managed 2/7 from my mobile at work in the queue system, which was a stress ridden ball ache. Then happened to learn that some people had over 80 places in the queue, no wonder they were sitting in the same areas all season. Might have a go tomorrow,just for the craic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: Then happened to learn that some people had over 80 places in the queue Woah, that's some going that like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieDoor Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Multiple browsers at the ready.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, if I had been on that forum I would probably have said the 10am login was unfair. Just sucks to go every week and then a couple of months later you’re nowhere again. If you haven't got a season ticket then how's it fair that you get to go every week and someone else doesn't get to go at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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