Pata Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Just want to be clear that I’m not defending the club’s actions at all here. Members who regularly attend games should find it easier to get a ticket for a match like this rather than the club significantly limiting access to tickets. Some kind of reward or point system to members for the few high demand matches per season would make a lot of sense IMO. It’s also just one match, the extra revenue is a drop in the ocean in the big picture regarding PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 They could have said that in the first place to avoid any confusion. Once again, Lee Charnley showing how utterly inept he is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 82% allocated to ballot without consultation or explanation. Appreciate the transparency now but it would have been better beforehand. Was almost a waste of time logging in for general sale, when usually that's your best chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Also shows up their "process was the same as previous fixtures" line as a total lie. Changing the proportion on ballot so hugely and with no warning is a huge change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) I'd calculated that only 2,500ish tickets were available on Monday and that's turned out to be the case. Just call me Inspector Dazzla the Stat Master. And I'd already had that detailed info just before the Trust published it, so I'd mulled it over and my immediate questions to NUFC would be: Why didn't NUFC communicate the changes to members ? And why post-sale did NUFC insist when questioned that the process and distribution was the same as every other sale. Why do they think touts don't use the ballot ? It'd be by far the easiest way for a tout to get tickets. Have they investigated the accounts of people who bought in the general sale ? For 400 members at the front of the queue to all have 6 x linked accounts and all buy their max. allowance feels very unusual. Edited February 27 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Also shows up their "process was the same as previous fixtures" line as a total lie. Changing the proportion on ballot so hugely and with no warning is a huge change. Not to get into this again, because ultimately it’s totally pointless now they’ve (seemingly) been transparent about how things were done - but - they’ll just say the process was exactly the same, it was just the numbers involved that were different (which is probably the case, to a lesser extent, with every ballot). I appreciate you and others feel that significantly changing the numbers, is effectively changing the process, and I would encourage you to feed that back, but they obviously don’t, so it’s probably not worth becoming fixated on whether they have “lied”. Edited February 27 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SteV said: Not to get into this again, because ultimately it’s totally pointless now they’ve (seemingly) been transparent about how things were done - but - they’ll just say the process was exactly the same, it was just the numbers involved that were different (which is probably the case, to a lesser extent, with every ballot). I appreciate you and others feel that significantly changing the numbers, is effectively changing the process, and I would encourage you to feed that back, but they obviously don’t, so it’s probably not worth becoming fixated on whether they have “lied”. If the way the ticket numbers were distributed was significantly different, then the process was significantly different. 82% of 15,000 going in the ballot is significantly different to normal. They could have put a single solitary ticket in the general sale and by definition they’ve followed “the same process as for every other game”. But in the real world, they haven’t actually done the same thing that they do for every game have they. I could tell my lass when I get home that I "followed the same process" because I walked into the pub and ordered 5 pints. But quite rightly she’ll want to know whether I drank all 5 pints myself, or it was 1 for me, 3 for the bar staff and 1 for my dog. Or something like that. I've said this many times, it's the smoke & mirrors and snidey behind the scenes changes that are infuriating. For me, that's more infuriating than not getting a ticket. Edited February 27 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 So what some of thought has actually happened in that they've changed how the ballot and sale tickets were allocated But apparently it's all just a few unhappy members whingeing because they didn't get tickets 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, SteV said: Not to get into this again, because ultimately it’s totally pointless now they’ve (seemingly) been transparent about how things were done - but - they’ll just say the process was exactly the same, it was just the numbers involved that were different (which is probably the case, to a lesser extent, with every ballot). I appreciate you and others feel that significantly changing the numbers, is a effectively changing the process, and I would encourage you to feed that back, but they obviously don’t, so it’s probably not worth becoming fixated on whether they have “lied”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Just dropping this in here, ahead of the Barca tickets going on sale. Happy Friday y'all ! Membership costs £40 per year (one‑off). Each event has 10,000 tickets via random ballot and 5,000 via online queue. In the online queue, a member can buy up to 6 tickets per membership. Tickets cost £50–£80 and resell for £150–£350. There are 19 events per year. Tickets are transferable, with no ID required. Memberships are unlimited with no ID required. The queue can be gamed using multiple browsers/bots. Economic impact The £40 annual fee spread across 19 events is about £2 per event, so it barely affects per‑event economics. If a tout secures 6 tickets in the queue: Total cost per batch: Tickets: £300–£480 Plus ~£2 effective membership allocation ≈ £302–£482 total Potential resale revenue (6 tickets): At £150 → £900 At £250 → £1,500 At £350 → £2,100 Potential profit per successful queue entry: Low resale case → ~£420 Mid resale case → ~£1,000 High resale case → ~£1,600 With: 19 attempts per year Two buying routes (ballot + queue) High resale margins Ability to scale memberships This structure remains very economically attractive to organised touts, particularly at scale. Edited February 27 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Ticket prices put up again for the Barca match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Ticket prices put up again for the Barca match. #PSR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Premium hospitality and Paul Dummett should not be in the same sentence. Hopko has a lot to answer for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Missed the Bournemouth ballot FFS 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Missed the Bournemouth ballot FFS 😂😂😂 You've only got a slightly worse chance than if you had entered TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Gallowgate Middle Tier Geriatrics cashing in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 It’s weird when people sell them for basically face value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 First 4 listing for Bournemouth there, decent prices, all L7. Three of them, in the "seller's notes", say Adult and Junior. The one I gat doesn't say that is tempting but would be a shitter if two adults rocked up and one was denied 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: First 4 listing for Bournemouth there, decent prices, all L7. Three of them, in the "seller's notes", say Adult and Junior. The one I gat doesn't say that is tempting but would be a shitter if two adults rocked up and one was denied 😂 Looks like "Shortside upper" might even be the away end 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) I'd do my best to use my mad ticketz skillz and help to sort you out with some via general sale and resale, rather than hear that you've given money to the cunts who tout tickets via those websites Edited March 12 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: I'd do my best to use my mad ticketz skillz and help to sort you out with some via general sale and resale, rather than hear that you've given money to the cunts who tout tickets via those websites Tbf we've done alright this season. Couple of ballots not including my brain fart of applying for the derby when we're away obviously 😂, 3 x Members sale and 2 invites to wor pal's box. Only looked because I forgot the Bournemouth ballot and don't fancy trying the Members sale from Tokyo 😳 even with a VPN. I'm probably more pragmatic about it all because I might have snideTV. I don't but if I did 😉 I also think it's a bit hilarious when people's main gripe seems to be they're not happy they, personally, can't game the system the way they used to and don't like other people doing the same over them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Tbf we've done alright this season. Couple of ballots not including my brain fart of applying for the derby when we're away obviously 😂, 3 x Members sale and 2 invites to wor pal's box. Only looked because I forgot the Bournemouth ballot and don't fancy trying the Members sale from Tokyo 😳 even with a VPN. I'm probably more pragmatic about it all because I might have snideTV. I don't but if I did 😉 I also think it's a bit hilarious when people's main gripe seems to be they're not happy they, personally, can't game the system the way they used to and don't like other people doing the same over them. It's not other people gaming the NUFC system that most system gamers are pissed off about, it's professional touting operations being given unfettered access to the NUFC system because the club won't shut the door on them. And also the fact that some punter with no allegiance to NUFC who signs up for a membership today has exactly the same chance of a ticket as a passionate fan who has had a membership for years and has been regularly applying for tickets or buying tickets. In my opinion, if a genuine NUFC fan is more lucky / skilled than me in getting tickets, then fair fucks, I'm not complaining about that. Edited March 12 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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