worthy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: Have to say, speaking as someone who's not too fond of our "supporters" constantly disparaging our own less adored players, it's wierd reading people turning their noses up at the likes Gordon and McTomanay. Then I have a think about it, and where we are. The likes of those 2 don't improve us. Improve the squad but not the starting 11 plus 1 Cause they are not good players. Gordon is a cunt that cant even play with heart for his so called adored club, speed merchant that lost all his speed, nothing else to show for it. McTomanay is a manu reject in the purest form, getting carried by the rest of his team and brings fuck all to the table that we dont have in "lesser" players already. We should be aiming WAY higher then those two. But as one of those that disparage some of our lesser players. Its just during the heat of the game for me, honestly. Its hard to see the skill drop so dramatically between the players and frustration just gets the best of, well at least me. Forum/yelling is one way to get rid of said frustration. EDIT: Didn't take the whole thing i wrote... Edited January 18, 2023 by worthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Aye, based on reporting it sounds like we can expect a full back and a midfielder by the end of the window. I found it interesting that during his interview with Sky, Ashworth said that we already know what we want to do in the summer. I wonder if we're seeing if it's possible to bring any of that forward. What we are wanting to do and will be able to do may not be the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Would have snapped your hand off for Tielemans a year ago, maybe even 6 months ago but he has been so poor for a while now , if that's due to him wanting a move then you have to question his attitude, not sure he is the type of player/ character we should be signing. Edited January 18, 2023 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, reefatoon said: Gordon is far too fucking ugly to even contemplate signing. The sheer magnitude of his monstrosity of a dish would leave us guaranteed relegation fodder. Id sooner see an actual rat turn out for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) It might have been on the Athletic, but by all accounts, Tielemans is a down to earth family man. He's a fantastic footballer and would be an asset at progressing and developing our play in the final third. It's worth bearing in mind, Howe is capable of taking his game up a notch as well. While it seems his downturn in form is in line with the form of his club, I think the major concerns are his engine and athleticism. If he's coming in to replace Bruno, Willock or Joe, he's going to be asked to press at intensity. Howe and the recruitment team will know if he's capable of that or not. I'd imagine if they can get Shelvey grafting, they can get Tielemans doing the same. Edited January 18, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Not that I seen him much but most of the time Gordan hasn’t been that good. Seen him cause some problems in some games but the prices being quoted to Chelsea seemed a bit excessive but that could be due to Chelsea tax, he seems a bit of a hot head who gets involved in stuff that he doesn’t need to. I would be more open minded to McTominay especially as we are so light in CM. Ultimately I guess if Howe was in favour of signing them I would trust him. Hasn’t made a mistake in the market yet to be fair.. Edited January 18, 2023 by Tisd09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Tisd09 said: Not that I seen him much but most of the time Gordan hasn’t been that good. Seen him cause some problems in some games but the prices being quoted to Chelsea seemed a bit excessive but that could be due to Chelsea tax, he seems a bit of a hot head who gets involved in stuff that he doesn’t need to. I would be more open minded to McTominay especially as we are so light in CM. Ultimately I guess if Howe was in favour of signing them I would trust him. Hasn’t made a mistake in the market yet to be fair.. I mean, it's easy to argue that he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 11 hours ago, GideonShandy said: Or Maddison Summer. There's no way you don't get porn if you pop that into Bing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Of the three where would you place them on the Chris Wood Transfer Rating Scale? 1. Rubbish player never wanted him 2. average player but Eddie could work his magic. 3. Don't rate him... But when we sign him, I will pretend he has always been quality? 1. McSauce 2. Gordon, 3. Tielemans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Tisd09 said: Not that I seen him much but most of the time Gordan hasn’t been that good. Seen him cause some problems in some games but the prices being quoted to Chelsea seemed a bit excessive but that could be due to Chelsea tax, he seems a bit of a hot head who gets involved in stuff that he doesn’t need to. I would be more open minded to McTominay especially as we are so light in CM. Ultimately I guess if Howe was in favour of signing them I would trust him. Hasn’t made a mistake in the market yet to be fair.. Wood was 100% a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Does Tielemans do well in pressing and defensive stats? I can't see us signing anyone who doesn't. Edit: He does alright on tackles and interceptions, but he does get dribbled past a lot. If he gets dribbled past a lot his tackling can't be good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Wood was 100% a mistake. Aye. Strange to say he hasn't made a mistake when he has such a huge, glaring one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I mean, it's easy to argue that he has. I’m assuming you mean Wood. He did a job last season and played a part in keeping us up IMO, he hasn’t contributed much this season but I wouldn’t call Wood a mistake when we needed a striker last season. It could have been a choice between Wood or nobody?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 If Wood is a mistake Howe’s hit rate so far has been pretty impressive, Isak has made a very promising start. And I guess there is Karius which seems a curious one but he hasn’t played a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wood was 100% a mistake. Once again, for the dunces at the back. We were relegation fodder New owners, new manager knew we needed a striker or it was Gayle* We went out, early doors, paid a release clause for an experienced striker as a cushion just in case. Then went looking for a better one which didn't happen. One of the earliest signs that the ownership/manager both meant business AND were prepared to fork out. Guess what, thickos? It worked. 100% NOT a mistake. * no disrespect to Gayle Edited January 18, 2023 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Gordon is not much better than Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wood was 100% a mistake. Absolute garbage. He was overpriced, of course, but we knew and accepted that. He was brought in to achieve a specific objective (helping us stay in the league), which he achieved with flying colours. Anything useful he does subsequently, like scoring the winner in a League Cup match (that’s then seen us make the semi final), or scoring at Southampton and Leicester, is simply a bonus, aside from the less obvious stuff around his tactical performance. He’s not good enough for where we want to get to, and he’ll be phased out soon enough, but he’s done his job to enable us to get there. Money well spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, NWMag said: Gordon is not much better than Murphy Murphy could fit Gordon's head inside his mouth whilst he's laughing. Probs AT Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Don't know why people have such an issue admitting Wood was a bad signing. His stats speak for themselves. It's possible to think Howe is doing God's work, whilst admitting he made one stinker of a signing. All good managers have their flops. Edited January 18, 2023 by Skeletor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Skeletor said: Don't know why people have such an issue admitting Wood was a bad signing. His stats speak for themselves. 2 posters above have laid out their reasons fairly concisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: Don't know why people have such an issue admitting Wood was a bad signing. His stats speak for themselves. I think people who criticise the signing have a habit of forgetting the circumstances around. It was a panic buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I can see both sides of the argument with Wood. No doubt he is poor. His pressing and off the ball work are commendable, but he his goal scoring instincts and finishing are total gash. That said, we bought him because he was a quick, hassle free buy to give us an option up top at a time we had no striker. He was then part of side that went on an incredible run to dodge relegation. Given the latter you could argue he was £25 million well spent, even if he has no use going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, BoSelecta said: 2 posters above have laid out their reasons fairly concisely. They don't make a good argument though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, NWMag said: Gordon is not much better than Murphy He's far more talented. He's not worth the prices bring mentioned though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) I'd hazard a guess that its because people genuinely don't think he was a bad signing and don't feel the need to admit to anything. £25m was too much obviously, in that sense it's a bad signing, but his impact on the team at the time was pretty clear to see at the time imo. Edited January 18, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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