BlueStar Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Ha height=500https://i.imgur.com/FgU5iRV.jpg[/img] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdckelly Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/16/mesut-ozil-row-chinas-arsenal-fans-burn-shirts-in-anger-at-xinjiang-post fun times ahead for the arsenal pr department Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Eventually we'll all have to apologize to China for something or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Garth put Antonio as centre forward in his team of the week and said this about him Michail Antonio: This was a fabulous performance. What this lad loses in finesse he more than makes up for in effort and desire. What a shame the striker had his well-deserved goal overruled by VAR. Very soon players like Antonio will no longer feature in the professional game due to VAR on account of the player's lack of sophistication as the technology seeks to root out the slightest indiscretion. The only element of luck that now exists in the game is if VAR sees something that everyone else misses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://twitter.com/_Grimanditweets/status/1206574848887181313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 What even is that? What a horrible league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 What even is that? What a horrible league. It's a piece of art by a well known italian artist who paints monkeys/apes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Who on earth in the Italian FA thought that was a good way to show anti-racism ffs. They’re a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 A significant percentage of Italians simply don't really 'get' racism. Particularly the kind of geriatrics who pull the strings at the FIGC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Pathetic in this day in age. Or am I racist for expecting Italians to not be racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://twitter.com/_Grimanditweets/status/1206574848887181313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/16/mesut-ozil-row-chinas-arsenal-fans-burn-shirts-in-anger-at-xinjiang-post fun times ahead for the arsenal pr department Matchgoers should hold up Sports Direct mugs while chanting "Free Hong Kong"...might agitate Ashley, loss of revenue or get us ghosted by China at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Certainly not racist, but there is definitely a bit of cultural relativism which happens when people view completely different countries through their own societal standards which have been forged through their own very specific history. Italy as a nation and an all-encompassing national identity has only existed for circa 150 years, and before that existed for 1500 years as a collection of smaller regional states. Even between towns this sense of difference is still pronounced, with entirely different dialects existing miles apart. This creates a culture which is regional, parochial and small-minded in many ways to this day. The modern formation of Italy also means that its colonial history is minimal. There was never an influx of people of colour who also shared the same language and culture - as was the case when Britain or France accepted post-war immigration. Immigration to Italy of people of colour has pretty much always been framed through the prism of Africans crossing the Mediterranean. Therefore as a country Italy has simply never really gone through this process of assimilating people of colour into their cultural identity. Germany has a very similar history (founded in exactly the same year), and honestly from my own personal experience with teutonic culture there is a weird way of dealing racial differences (I'm talking an awkwardness, rather than racism). The major difference between Germany and Italy is that Germany (at least in the old FDR) went through a thorough process of introspection after Nazism to create the modern, liberal, borderline apologetic nation it is to today. Italy simply never went through that same process after Mussolini and its own experiences of fascism, at all. All of this creates a society that is openly xenophobic to otherness without ever really understanding why its considered racist. If I can make fun of a Venetian, or a Neapolitan, then why can't I do the same to a black person? This is the genuine thought process you will get from an Ultra, and without a history to explain why this is not acceptable, it continues unrelenting. It's undoubtedly a major issue, and vehemently unacceptable through modern western standards, but like anything can't really be explained nor fixed without really understanding context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It also doesn't help that pretty much all positions of power in Italy are dominated by old men. The decision making at the Corriere dello sport and the FIGC is lead by those well into pensionable age - leading to the kind of truly embarrassing incidents of the last month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://twitter.com/_Grimanditweets/status/1206574848887181313 Can hardly believe my eyes there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I see the artist has said that the original paintings - presumably some some time ago and not specifically for this initiative - were supposed to suggest that all humans are apes, but Christ. Pick something else for your campaign, lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 https://twitter.com/_Grimanditweets/status/1206574848887181313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I see the artist has said that the original paintings - presumably some some time ago and not specifically for this initiative - were supposed to suggest that all humans are apes, but Christ. Pick something else for your campaign, lads. That won't go down well in the catholic church. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I thought I'd make this work to teach that we're all apes I made the western monkey with blue and white eyes, the Asian monkey with almond-shaped eyes and the black monkey positioned in the centre Decided the monkey representing black people needed no modification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 That has to be the worlds shittest idea if done in good faith ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 so over here it rather looks like the FAI could go out of business, they were onto our sports minister looking for an €18m bailout which could take down the league or ireland with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 "John Delaney could run anything, he could run FIFA" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50839639?ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_linkname=sport&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3k6unn4LGKwxQUOIMz4AwQM4qC0yBpJesuXT1o_MeL1XQaODgEdmgk8ec&fbclid=IwAR35ft3fznIjb6tiClw4IRsOq9Jbj74DAG3Kf7GTnFrs1igkb9Ba8Vojj7A Neil shipperly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 "John Delaney could run anything, he could run FIFA" Drinking buddy of Mike Ashley, imagine that scene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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