Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)

[BoSelecta]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

Saw a video saying the Newcastle created the most open play chances in Europe last season. Obviously this was in relation to Sesko vs Man Utd, and how NUFC would be better just from a career perspective as Man U don’t create that many chances for their front players. 
 

Isak has benefitted from this creativity for two years plus so it’s absolutely no guarantee he will smash it at Liverpool

Watch his goals from last year, the majority are team goals. He’s obviously a world class talent but the team put alot of those goals on a plate for him (his finishing from these position is exceptional of course). I think he’ll stay but if he goes we will still score plenty. As someone above has commented, his link up play could be harder to replace.

https://youtu.be/e5V6BDkR--g?si=ZBGWMF-fMruoH-i9

 

*This post is raw unadulterated copium.

 

[Sibierski]

21 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Is Isak not a slight bit overrated?

 

He is gassed every game at 60 minutes and is slightly inconsistent.
 

I’m not sure if we get 150 million off Liverpool etc that it’s not that bad really

 

 

Nah. His record since moving to prem has been superb, and for a side that doesn’t dominate ball and play 99% of games.

 

It’s also what else he brings to the striker role. Guy can drop off and link passes nearly as good as Kane, but then he can also dribble with the ball like a silky winger. So much to his collection you are just not paying for goals. 
 

Why I’d want to keep him at all costs for another season, because we’re still in squad building phase and need Europe every season and he’d be key to achieving that.

[Stottie]

20 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Is Isak not a slight bit overrated?

 

He is gassed every game at 60 minutes and is slightly inconsistent.
 

I’m not sure if we get 150 million off Liverpool etc that it’s not that bad really

 

 

Good teams and good players make each other look better. We're a good team, so Isak has benefitted, while also taking us up the league.

 

Isak would be even better if we'd had a decent striker to bring on 70 minutes in. And if we could have done that more often by being in commanding positions by then in more games.

 

Isak was seventh fastest to 50PL goals in whatever it is, 35 years. Only Salah and Haarland have scored more since we signed him. That's an objective sign of an elite player. 

 

I want a fee that half the people commentating on it think is too high. Every other player out there is now going for a fee that feels far too high. It is nonsensical to suggest Isak, a far better player than Cunha, Pedro, Mbeumo, Madueke, Elanga etc. should not. This needs to be the next chapter in crazy fees, not a charity shop bargain. Otherwise he stays and plays in black and white, hopefully with Wissa coming on with 70 minutes played. We'll deal with any "spit the dummy" problems when we face them, not when they exist in some Liverpool fan's imagination.

[Turnbull2000]

Well, there's this fucking bid then?

 

Are Liverpool intentionally leaving till the last moment in the hope of leaving us unable to source a replacement? For that to work, Isak would essentially have had to told the club he'll refuse to play.

[Yorkie]

23 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Interesting take.

 

I've been an unashamed superfan of Rory Smith for years now (though I think he's gradually died up his arse a little bit, the more he's featured on mainstream stuff) and his takes are always interesting and thoughtful. 

 

He's absolutely right that selling a star isn't the end of the world. I was prepared to see us sell Bruno for megabucks this time last year, on the basis that it might fund growth. I'm pretty sure I'll have used the Coutinho example, as he does there, when debating it on here.

 

However - in the context of Isak - making the case for selling to fund growth is pure strawman. Even moreso is harping on about how PSR saves the wider football network from more state-funded success. That's not the point. Plenty of Newcastle fans wouldn't want that either. The point is, PSR makes the playing field uneven and this potential deal - after they've already invested unholy amounts into their attack - highlights that issue perfectly.

 

He's got a blind spot when it comes to PSR, probably entirely accountable to the fact he supports Liverpool.

[Kid Icarus]

53 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

 

Most of the time I agree/like much of your post I see on here, I obviously get your points, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with what I said regarding the situation in reply to @gdm 

 

I can't see a situation where he stays if it's gone beyond repair, the people saying things like he's under contract, we can force him to stay, we can let him rot in the reserves etc, it doesn't matter, we can't have a striker top 5 in the world dicking around in the reserves under 21s with constant media coverage, the clubs on its arse right now, no DOF, no CEO, recruitment looking shambolic, an organisation that are seemingly distant, they've taken their hands off the wheel a bit, and now people think we'll force a player of his profile to hang around in the hope of a bidding war next season.

 

I'm not convinced anymore, it's still great many of you are though, I like the faith.

 

I do still think you'll be disappointed though KI.

 

I've nothing to prove though in saying that, just my feelings on it.

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify though, I'm more talking about what can happen, what should happen and what does happen. What I think will happen is another matter.

 

I already think that we'll sell him to Liverpool, partly because I'm feeling very pessimistic at the moment, partly because in situations like this it's very difficult to go against the grain of a lifetime of Newcastle letting us down, and partly because everything about us at the moment points towards it happening. 

 

This is going to be a hugely pivotal moment under PIF and the club they decide we're going to be.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I've been an unashamed superfan of Rory Smith for years now (though I think he's gradually died up his arse a little bit, the more he's featured on mainstream stuff) and his takes are always interesting and thoughtful. 

 

He's absolutely right that selling a star isn't the end of the world. I was prepared to see us sell Bruno for megabucks this time last year, on the basis that it might fund growth. I'm pretty sure I'll have used the Coutinho example, as he does there, when debating it on here.

 

However - in the context of Isak - making the case for selling to fund growth is pure strawman. Even moreso is harping on about how PSR saves the wider football network from more state-funded success. That's not the point. Plenty of Newcastle fans wouldn't want that either. The point is, PSR makes the playing field uneven and this potential deal - after they've already invested unholy amounts into their attack - highlights that issue perfectly.

 

He's got a blind spot when it comes to PSR, probably entirely accountable to the fact he supports Liverpool.

I'd take his point if Liverpool had sold Coutinho to Man City, Man United, Arsenal, or Chelsea. I'd welcome the real comparison - selling Isak to Barca or PSG - with open arms. 

 

This is more like when Arsenal sold Van Persie to Man United.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Andy84]

There’s definitely an air of Newcastle are obliged to sell Isak because a) it’s Liverpool b) wouldn’t it be great to see him alongside Salah etc and C) Newcastle should feel happy about this because of PSR, see Coutinho!  

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Andy84

[Mike]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

He's got a blind spot when it comes to PSR, probably entirely accountable to the fact he supports Liverpool.

 

Which didn't get mentioned once in the fucking article. Funny that.

[Optimistic Nut]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I'd take his point if Liverpool had sold Coutinho to Man City, Man United, Arsenal, or Chelsea. I'd welcome the real comparison - selling Isak to Barca or PSG - with open arms. 

 

This is more like when Arsenal sold Van Persie to Man United.

 

 

 

 

Or Liverpool selling Fernando Torres to Chelsea. 

[ianbeany]

34 minutes ago, gallowghoul said:

 

He's a liverpool fan 

 

Takes one to know one

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Or Liverpool selling Fernando Torres to Chelsea. 

It would definitely be a much nearer comparison. If only Isak was similarly long out of form and crocked like Torres was at the time when they cashed in.

[gdm]

9 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

He's absolutely right that selling a star isn't the end of the world. I was prepared to see us sell Bruno for megabucks this time last year, on the basis that it might fund growth. I'm pretty sure I'll have used the Coutinho example, as he does there, when debating it on here.

 

The Coutinho example doesn’t work in this day in age. The prices for a Sesko is near £70/£80m just replace Isak. We cannot transform the squad by selling Isak we’d get 2-3 players max 

[tarie4]

7 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I've been an unashamed superfan of Rory Smith for years now (though I think he's gradually died up his arse a little bit, the more he's featured on mainstream stuff) and his takes are always interesting and thoughtful. 

 

He's absolutely right that selling a star isn't the end of the world. I was prepared to see us sell Bruno for megabucks this time last year, on the basis that it might fund growth. I'm pretty sure I'll have used the Coutinho example, as he does there, when debating it on here.

 

However - in the context of Isak - making the case for selling to fund growth is pure strawman. Even moreso is harping on about how PSR saves the wider football network from more state-funded success. That's not the point. Plenty of Newcastle fans wouldn't want that either. The point is, PSR makes the playing field uneven and this potential deal - after they've already invested unholy amounts into their attack - highlights that issue perfectly.

 

He's got a blind spot when it comes to PSR, probably entirely accountable to the fact he supports Liverpool.

I reckon a lot of us Newcastle fans wouldn't be too bothered selling Isak if we got over 150 for him and had someone lined up to replace him. The real worry is how much Liverpool will actually offer after trying to unsettle him.

 

If they offer 140 plus 15 in add-ons, cool, we rebuild. But not 115 with 15 in add-ons, no way.

 

So I find most of these opinions rather condescending and biased. Sell isak to Liverpool, its your coutinho moment! All teams sell blah blah.  Pay the 150 plus and you can have Isak. 

[Kid Icarus]

That was during that era when fees went absolutely insane for a few players and then came back down as well wasn't it? Total guesswork but it would be like a £300m signing now.

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

I reckon a lot of us Newcastle fans wouldn't be too bothered selling Isak if we got over 150 for him and had someone lined up to replace him. The real worry is how much Liverpool will actually offer after trying to unsettle him.

 

If they offer 140 plus 15 in add-ons, cool, we rebuild. But not 115 with 15 in add-ons, no way.

 

So I find most of these opinions rather condescending and biased. Sell isak to Liverpool, its your coutinho moment! All teams sell blah blah.  Pay the 150 plus and you can have Isak. 

Seen Liverpool fans willing us to buy Sesko as well. The patting on the head as they're fucking our arse element is properly nauseating 

[Chris_R]

If top quality PL players cost £30m each, then sure selling Isak for £150m allows us to rebuild the squad. I'm too lazy to look but I'd be interested to see how Liverpool spent the Coutinho money because I bet they got a lot of players for it.

 

But that's not an option for us, the way prices are these days, selling Isak for £150m only really allows us to replace Isak plus maybe one other player. It's hardly a squad rebuild.

[Paully]

Apoarently it is his - renting it off a former player 

 

 

[Minhosa]

1 minute ago, Paully said:

Apoarently it is his - renting it off a former player 

 

 

Can confirm this is 100% his house.

 

Went up for rent yesterday.

[Andy84]

Moving to improved digs with his new contract 

[Ikon]

Go there and have a red curry shit lads. 

[localshop]

3 minutes ago, Paully said:

Apoarently it is his - renting it off a former player 

 

 

How many shitters?

[Kid Icarus]

This fucking club 

[Andy84]

Yeah this isn’t good 

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

This fucking club 

 

 Right? We cannot possibly.