Pablo123 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, Green2025 said: How is a manger supposed to scout players properly? Almost all clubs have moved away from this model and gone the sporting director route. If and when Eddie leaves, it makes it difficult for the next manager. Manager has enough on his plate already. Now he's dealing with his star player wanting to leave while also trying to keep morale of the squad high before a CL campaign as well as addressing reinforcements needed. He'll trust his network of scouts, then do due diligence himself, I'd imagine. He's a control freak by all accounts I'm sure he doesn't leave any stoned uncovered with regards to plays recommended to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 The club can't have a singular strategy and if that doesn't work then the alternative is to do nothing. Bruno's end of season interview was as telling as Howe's. We need more players, we're going into a big campaign and need bodies. Whether you raise the ceiling, the floor, knock some walls out; whatever, the answer can't be go into the season with an even smaller squad. Our dithering is the worst part of it all, we don't seem to have an idea of when to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 I’d take the head space bit with a massive pinch of salt. All that talk won’t be from Newcastle side, that will be from Liverpool side to the media. Our focus is the clear worse than being leaked injury. Journos then will mix that with the shite they’re getting from Liverpool. Ornstein said other week he has no fucking clue what’s going on, and that’s still the case. We’re keeping things close to our chest because Isak injury fucks is seriously hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Howe by the end of today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, GallowgatePigeon said: I'm not trying to be facetious, but who is in charge here? @Rich I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: The pool of players is naturally small, though? We're in a position now where the next step up is the elite clubs in the world. To get into that, the signings we make need to be good enough for those clubs. PSR means we can't. I think We've literally hit our wall now and it's rotten that it's regulations that are stopping us from getting those players. What about more Bruno's, Botmans, even Isaks when we signed them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 5 minutes ago, TBG said: Boats exist. If they wanted to, they would. He arrives just in time to come home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Sibierski said: I’d take the head space bit with a massive pinch of salt. All that talk won’t be from Newcastle side, that will be from Liverpool side to the media. Our focus is the clear worse than being leaked injury. Journos then will mix that with the shite they’re getting from Liverpool. Ornstein said other week he has no fucking clue what’s going on, and that’s still the case. We’re keeping things close to our chest because Isak injury fucks is seriously hard. Genuinely do you think this is all down to the injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He's clearly stayed home to sign his new contract. Stop laughing at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Must be hard being in the right head space to play football for massive amounts of money. And knowing even if the career ended tomorrow you'd retire a multi-millionaire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, madras said: What about more Bruno's, Botmans, even Isaks when we signed them? They are 70m, 60m and 100m in the current market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 5 minutes ago, madras said: What about more Bruno's, Botmans, even Isaks when we signed them? We were a shiny new thing when they joined with a shit oad of PSR room. We were also still relatively newly-rich and a CL side when Tonali comes. I'm not convinced they sign for us now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Genuinely do you think this is all down to the injury? Yes. All the evidence to how we’ve approached injuries (and what we say about them) points towards this being more serious than lead to believe, rather than him heading off which the evidence says otherwise in how we’ve dealt with things in past. We wanted to keep Wilson, we’ve been desperate for a clear established named striker from word go, whilst a formation change is one thing it’s also with a strong indication that all is not good with Isak rest to have his groin issue magically disappear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, GallowgatePigeon said: I'm not trying to be facetious, but who is in charge here? After the takeover it was clear that PIFs name was above the door but Amanda and Mehrdad were the custodians. Who is taking ownership of this mess? Who is at the centre of the proverbial wheel? We are just one small tile on a huge mosaic for PIF, I doubt Yasir gives a shit about the day to day nitty gritty of running the club, I doubt PIF even have the same level of enthusiasm or appetite for us anymore. The Saudi MO is to throw enough money at something to buy your way to the top. You have to be a lot smarter and strategic than that in the PL, they're probably more interested in their vapid wankbox of a league that no one cares about This is the problem. Eales and Mitchell were at the helm, then once Eales has been diagnosed with blood cancer, why has it taken a year to replace him? It clearly hasn't worked him staying on until the torch is passed with Mitchell jumping ship at the start of the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, joeyt said: Howe by the end of today They stopped classes for this at my school and let us listen to it on the radio. Epic times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Yes. All the evidence to how we’ve approached injuries (and what we say about them) points towards this being more serious than lead to believe, rather than him heading off which the evidence says otherwise in how we’ve dealt with things in past. We wanted to keep Wilson, we’ve been desperate for a clear established named striker from word go, whilst a formation change is one thing it’s also with a strong indication that all is not good with Isak rest to have his groin issue magically disappear. Surely we would have kept Wilson if we wanted to. He’d hardly turn down a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Yes. All the evidence to how we’ve approached injuries (and what we say about them) points towards this being more serious than lead to believe, rather than him heading off which the evidence says otherwise in how we’ve dealt with things in past. We wanted to keep Wilson, we’ve been desperate for a clear established named striker from word go, whilst a formation change is one thing it’s also with a strong indication that all is not good with Isak rest to have his groin issue magically disappear. Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Look, it’s not ideal and situation has most of us worried, but the social media melt down (utter bed wetting, demands for statement from Isak, people thinking that know how to run a club) from a section of our fans is embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We were a shiny new thing when they joined with a shit oad of PSR room. We were also still relatively newly-rich and a CL side when Tonali comes. I'm not convinced they sign for us now. We aren’t even targeting them though. I think I know the major reasons why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 I keep hearing how much more room to spend Liverpool have and their interest in Isak. But when you think about it, all they did was let Newcastle know informally that they'd be willing to pay £120 million for Isak. Never followed up with an actual bid, or looked to entice Newcastle with any indication of an increased offer of any kind. They seemed to then move on to Ekitike pretty quickly, even though there was no real pressure to do so, as they could have left that hanging for a while, and dangled that over Newcastle while trying to convince them to accept a deal for Isak. The sudden noise about Saudi interest as soon as Liverpool had signed Ekitike and so looked less likely to sign Isak was also a bit suspicious too. Also if there was any real indication out there that Isak could be had this summer, would Arsenal not have enquired as well or put out some noise too regarding their interest? There's a chance we have flat out refused to sell and clubs know this, and a lot of this noise is agent driven to put on added pressure regarding an improved contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green2025 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 21 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: He's in charge of the players he wants to sign, it's up to other people to sell the club and seal the deal. We're trying to shop with the big boys, but haven't got the financial clout, so we're missing out on our top targets. That's not Howe's fault. His plan B, C, D will be inferior players. A sporting director would prep several similar profiles, know the asking price, and the manager could take his pick from them. Now we're scrambling. Leaving it late in the window means overpaying and not usually first choice picks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, KaKa said: I keep hearing how much more room to spend Liverpool have and their interest in Isak. But when you think about it, all they did was let Newcastle know informally that they'd be willing to pay £120 million for Isak. Never followed up with an actual bid, or looked to entice Newcastle with any indication of an increased offer of any kind. They seemed to then move on to Ekitike pretty quickly, even though there was no real pressure to do so, as they could have left that hanging for a while, and dangled that over Newcastle while trying to convince them to accept a deal for Isak. The sudden noise about Saudi interest as soon as Liverpool had signed Ekitike and so looked less likely to sign Isak was also a bit suspicious too. Also if there was any real indication out there that Isak could be had this summer, would Arsenal not have enquired as well or put out some noise too regarding their interest? There's a chance we have flat out refused to sell and clubs know this, and a lot of this noise is agent driven to put on added pressure regarding an improved contract. There's every chance this is agent driven, and he does need a new contract. No player likes losing out on a double your money contract offer. Question is whether we could even come close to what Liverpool can offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He’s away. Think of this as an Andy Cole catalyst for big things moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 11 minutes ago, gallowghoul said: They are 70m, 60m and 100m in the current market We had a free run at Tonali and Bruno. And faced Milan for Botman. We aren’t going for those types of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, TRon said: There's every chance this is agent driven, and he does need a new contract. No player likes losing out on a double your money contract offer. Question is whether we could even come close to what Liverpool can offer. Agreed. The contract is overdue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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