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1 minute ago, El Prontonise said:

Not good optics by the club to allow him to train with Sociedad imo if it's true.

The post above yours says ‘when it’s empty’ not ‘with Sociedad’. 

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I don't think it's realistic to expect him to train in Benton in the circumstances tbf like. :lol:

 

He's an absolute cunt for what he's done but having him at Benton creates a circus that we won't want just as much as he won't. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I don't think it's realistic to expect him to train in Benton in the circumstances tbf like. :lol:

 

He's an absolute cunt for what he's done but having him at Benton creates a circus that we won't want just as much as he won't. 

 

 

 


Not sure how it would create any more of a circus mind. People can tweet about him and photograph him in Spain just the same. In fact it makes more of a story, as we’ve just seen. Why is an empty training ground in Spain any different to one in Newcastle? 
 

Sounds alright after that clarification from Downie though. If true. 

 

 

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The situation is fairly murky at best. While he and his agent are clearly stirring up some controversy, it's hard to gauge the true severity given that these football "journalists" have every incentive to amplify the drama and get some lovely engagement. Meanwhile, the club naturally wants to downplay any rift, leaving us somewhere in the middle trying to parse the reality from the spin.

 

If Isak stays but sulks through the season, nobody wins. He also risks finding himself without suitors next summer when they've all inevitably moved on to the next flavour of the month hype machine. However, if he knuckles down and starts scoring regularly, all will likely be forgiven fairly quickly .

 

Like most fans here, I'd prefer to see him leave for an appropriate fee, but if it's Liverpool for the fees being thrown around or nowhere, I'll take nowhere every time.

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Not sure how it would create any more of a circus mind. People can tweet about him and photograph him in Spain just the same. In fact it makes more of a story, as we’ve just seen. Why is an empty training ground in Spain any different to one in Newcastle? 
 

Sounds alright after that clarification from Downie though. If true. 

 

 

 

 

Depends where the training ground is etc, it could be completely closed off.

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Not sure how it would create any more of a circus mind. People can tweet about him and photograph him in Spain just the same. In fact it makes more of a story, as we’ve just seen. Why is an empty training ground in Spain any different to one in Newcastle? 
 

Sounds alright after that clarification from Downie though. If true. 

 

 

 

Have you ever been near the training ground during the summer holidays? :lol:

 

Would be absolute bedlam. Far too many places to take photos and be heard as well.

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1 minute ago, Dandy Man said:

The situation is fairly murky at best. While he and his agent are clearly stirring up some controversy, it's hard to gauge the true severity given that these football "journalists" have every incentive to amplify the drama and get some lovely engagement. Meanwhile, the club naturally wants to downplay any rift, leaving us somewhere in the middle trying to parse the reality from the spin.

 

If Isak stays but sulks through the season, nobody wins. He also risks finding himself without suitors next summer when they've all inevitably moved on to the next flavour of the month hype machine. However, if he knuckles down and starts scoring regularly, all will likely be forgiven fairly quickly .

 

Like most fans here, I'd prefer to see him leave for an appropriate fee, but if it's Liverpool for the fees being thrown around or nowhere, I'll take nowhere every time.


Completely agree. For all the feverish panic it’s still possible it blows over eventually. And we should only sell him for massive money and only when we have 2 strikers confirmed to come in 

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I have big issues with allowing a player who's asked to explore his options to go away to recover from his "injury" without someone from nufc being there.

 

The optics of it all are shite regarding the context of what's happened and is going on.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, gdm said:

% snippet from downie 

 

If Isak was to leave Newcastle, his former club would receive 10 percent of every euro above a €70m transfer fee.

So for context:

 

£150m sale = £111m “profit” to book (fee less 30m residual book value plus 9m to Sociedad)

£140m sale = £102m

£135m = £97.5m

£130m = £93m

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22 minutes ago, gdm said:

Never before have I wished injury on a player not even Michael Owen but fuck be this behaviour deserves one


10% of every euro above €70m. What is that shite he’s just typed :D Literally 10% of any fee above €70m. 

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9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Should’ve probably led with that bit Keith :lol:


Yea but it doesn’t create the drama and stoke the tension between our fanbase and enable them to create another day of clickbait with no credible information.

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7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Another one with a personal arrangement regarding training is this common place elsewhere ? Gordon famously doesn't do certain things too. 

I don’t think it is that unusual.  Going back to the Allardyce/Pardew era, I knew a personal trainer that was employed by both Newcastle and Sunderland players independently of their clubs..

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17 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

Not good optics by the club to allow him to train with Sociedad imo if it's true.

 

It's better optics than seeing him hold up a Liverpool shirt and their fans crowing about getting him for £120m. 

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30 minutes ago, gdm said:

Never before have I wished injury on a player not even Michael Owen but fuck be this behaviour deserves one

I know it’s pedantic but why put “10 percent of every euro above a €70m transfer fee…” as opposed to what? 10% of every second Euro, i.e. 5% of profit? 

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3 hours ago, Big Geordie said:

Always thought that Isak seemed like a decent lad who would do the right things. Obviously shows a lack of professionalism but perhaps it's something of an indictment on the modern day player(s)? 

 he got involved in all the promo stuff knowning he was gonna be a cunt to the club and his teammates within a few weeks.

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