Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[Kooiman]

Just now, Infinitely Content said:

PSG would have a lot to say about that. They're a better team with a better manager, even if Liverpool had Isak.

I'd echo this. 

 

There are some significant changes occurring at Liverpool this summer as they migrate towards Arne Slot's vision. Ignoring the silly stuff surrounding Trent Alexander-Arnold, he offered them a wonderful attacking outlet from fullback. Jeremie Frimpong plays that position very differently, while I'd argue sharing some similar weaknesses. Milos Kerkez on the other side has to get past Andy Robertson, which is no small feat, but he feels stylistically more similar to the man he intends to replace. The only issue I see with Kerkez right now is his habit of going to ground quite easily. You mistime a few of those and you're in bother. 

 

Striking the balance in the final third is also a tricky one. It doesn't seem like they'll be adapting the system to fit Florian Wirtz, more asking him to fit them. Hugo Ekitike will also need to hit the ground running. If I was putting a tenner on things, I'd be more inclined to bet Liverpool win the next Premier League, not the upcoming one. 

 

PSG haven't made any significant moves and they don't need to. That continuity should help them. I also feel like people aren't talking about Man City course correcting either. Maybe Liverpool blow teams out the water and I look daft, but the jury is still out for me. 

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I think we need someone as well as Wissa before we can sell Isak. Wissa alone isn't enough. 

Agree, but the window will be over before we get two strikers in, nevermind one.

[Jewel]

5 minutes ago, Erikse said:

We simply won't get a true replacement.. It seems like all our suitable targets has already gone to the sky six teams.

How much would Julian Alvarez cost? Probably too much.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Turnbull2000 said:

Our owners don't really give a fuck. They seem to care more about sustaining Chelsea these days.

 

We can do better than this. PIF is a vast sovereign wealth fund, every decision they make isn't with reference to Newcastle and it's stupid to pretend it should be. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, nufc123 said:

Agree, but the window will be over before we get two strikers in, nevermind one.

 

Quite possibly, but then he can't be sold. 

[Kanj]

60M + Ekitke, Liverpool cover the wage differential for 3 years of the contract by paying up front that amount to us. 30M next summer. 

[alexf]

1 minute ago, Jewel said:

How much would Julian Alvarez cost? Probably too much.

Sold for £90m last summer and by all accounts has been brilliant for atletico so yeah not happening.

 

(Which is similar to what I would have said going into this summer about teams coming for Isak)

[McEwan]

On 30/07/2025 at 08:32, et tu brute said:

Nope 

 

Why not (I'm sure there's a reason but what is it)?  (re: swap Isak with Liverpool for Ekitike + cash)

[alexf]

Surely the twitter twats and media are completely wrong about that narrative earlier of "if you sell us Isak for £120m then we won't take Ekitike from you" 

 

Because they signed him and then just came back and bid £100m+ for Isak anyways 

 

So either Liverpool are just mugging us right off or the twitter twats were just completely wrong as usual.

[Marquee Moon]

The club need to locate their spine & tell him he's not getting sold this summer and to get to fucking work.

 

Selling - by far - your most important asset when you have no staff and no plan to reinvest it wisely. Disaster waiting to happen.

[J7]

7 minutes ago, Kooiman said:

I'd echo this. 

 

There are some significant changes occurring at Liverpool this summer as they migrate towards Arne Slot's vision. Ignoring the silly stuff surrounding Trent Alexander-Arnold, he offered them a wonderful attacking outlet from fullback. Jeremie Frimpong plays that position very differently, while I'd argue sharing some similar weaknesses. Milos Kerkez on the other side has to get past Andy Robertson, which is no small feat, but he feels stylistically more similar to the man he intends to replace. The only issue I see with Kerkez right now is his habit of going to ground quite easily. You mistime a few of those and you're in bother. 

 

Striking the balance in the final third is also a tricky one. It doesn't seem like they'll be adapting the system to fit Florian Wirtz, more asking him to fit them. Hugo Ekitike will also need to hit the ground running. If I was putting a tenner on things, I'd be more inclined to bet Liverpool win the next Premier League, not the upcoming one. 

 

PSG haven't made any significant moves and they don't need to. That continuity should help them. I also feel like people aren't talking about Man City course correcting either. Maybe Liverpool blow teams out the water and I look daft, but the jury is still out for me. 

There are still question marks about Slot. He did well riding the crest of a wave last season and did alter some things, but the competition disappeared for a year. His management in the cup final of just throwing attackers on was horrendous. Buying lots and lots of good players would certainly help him.

[et tu brute]

25 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We certainly won't be selling him until the end of the window if it relies on lining up 2 strikers. We're not close to any at the moment so we simply can't sell him even if we would like to.

We won't be selling him for £135

million either, never mind not getting two strikers in. Would love to know one instance when someone has fucked us over in transfers throughout the current ownership. Even with Longstaff they played hardball with Leeds

[Bada Bing]

1 minute ago, alexf said:

Surely the twitter twats and media are completely wrong about that narrative earlier of "if you sell us Isak for £120m then we won't take Ekitike from you" 

 

Because they signed him and then just came back and bid £100m+ for Isak anyways 

 

So either Liverpool are just mugging us right off or the twitter twats were just completely wrong as usual.

 

That was just a weird narrative spun by Liverpool slop accounts

[Kid Icarus]

 

Luke, go back on holiday please.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Let’s see what this barometer of PIF’s ambition /  vision is for our club 

 

they cave in now, we can reasonably accept they have led us along regarding their intentions 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2025 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP

[Pandamninator]

3 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

We won't be selling him for £135

million either, never mind not getting two strikers in. Would love to know one instance when someone has fucked us over in transfers throughout the current ownership. Even with Longstaff they played hardball with Leeds

Just ASM... but does that count if our owners were on both sides of the transaction?

[Tsunami]

I’m also of the opinion that we get Wissa in and tell Isak to put his dummy back in and stay the season. It’d cost us stupid money to get 2 new strikers in, we’ll be paying over the odds for Wissa for a start. 
 

Forget whatever that twat of a club would cough up; whatever the figure is, that’ll be the figure other clubs will use to value any approach from us for their players. We’ll be backed into a corner where we either squander most of money we make on the sale or we sacrifice the season, miss out on Europe and fail to make money from any Champs League run.

 

I’ll happily take Isak back into the fold this season but once he does go he’s going to get dogs abuse. Rightly so.

[alexf]

2 minutes ago, J7 said:

There are still question marks about Slot. He did well riding the crest of a wave last season and did alter some things, but the competition disappeared for a year. His management in the cup final of just throwing attackers on was horrendous. Buying lots and lots of good players would certainly help him.

 

The only thing I would saw about Liverpool is they have a lot of wonderful attacking players, especially if they get Isak. But they have signed two very attacking full backs. So will be interesting to see if they can get the balance of defence right. They are relying fully on Van Dijk again to hold it all down and I guess Gravenberch to mop up when everyone else plows forward. 

 

If I wasn't going to be desperately avoiding their games if Isak leaves, I'm sure they are going to be fun to watch as it seems they will just be trying to outscore teams. Isak with Salah and Wirtz supplying on paper suggests goals galore. 

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Luke, go back on holiday please.

Guess that settles it then, he's gone.

[Infinitely Content]

3 minutes ago, Kooiman said:

I'd echo this. 

 

There are some significant changes occurring at Liverpool this summer as they migrate towards Arne Slot's vision. Ignoring the silly stuff surrounding Trent Alexander-Arnold, he offered them a wonderful attacking outlet from fullback. Jeremie Frimpong plays that position very differently, while I'd argue sharing some similar weaknesses. Milos Kerkez on the other side has to get past Andy Robertson, which is no small feat, but he feels stylistically more similar to the man he intends to replace. The only issue I see with Kerkez right now is his habit of going to ground quite easily. You mistime a few of those and you're in bother. 

 

Striking the balance in the final third is also a tricky one. It doesn't seem like they'll be adapting the system to fit Florian Wirtz, more asking him to fit them. Hugo Ekitike will also need to hit the ground running. If I was putting a tenner on things, I'd be more inclined to bet Liverpool win the next Premier League, not the upcoming one. 

 

PSG haven't made any significant moves and they don't need to. That continuity should help them. I also feel like people aren't talking about Man City course correcting either. Maybe Liverpool blow teams out the water and I look daft, but the jury is still out for me. 

I'd also add that there's still question marks over Slot as a manager in a more competitive title race; as I wouldn't say it was Liverpool's excellence that made last season so uncompetitive, but more so Arsenal and Manchester City failing to make it a contest. He should be better a year on, but I would wager that he will face much tougher competition this upcoming season and won't able to afford his team tapering off as they did last time out. Frimpong and Kerkez aren't obvious improvements for me, Wirtz has looked good in preseason and should be fine,  I'd expect him to have a bit of an impact initially at least. However I look at the PSG team, and for me they're stronger all over the pitch and have far better balance and a manager who has landed on something magic that brought a spirit to PSG's play which was irrepressible. Liverpool in comparison limped over the line. A lot to prove for me yet, I don't believe they're the inevitable superpower some seem to be suggesting.

[alexf]

I've done fuck all work today. Need to get off the forum 

[Menace]

I've been like that for 2 weeks now tbf

[J7]

Im not for this TalkSport talking heads bollocks that they’re not our rivals either. They are. As soon as you face them in a cup competition regardless of the league, they’re our rivals. Had Isak been in their shirt and not ours, there’s a strong chance they’d have won the cup final. So for that reason alone, they’re our rivals and are playing in all the same competitions as us.  That puts the price up for me.

[andyc35i]

I’m just annoyed at how badly we have planned for this summer. Even if we have touted that Isak is not for sale, we should have been investing in the team knowing that there’s a strong chance an unhappy player could leave.

 

I mean we should have pushed harder for Ekitike before Liverpool got involved and should already have signed Guehi. That’s £120m that we have to spend and two problems positions sorted before even thinking about Isak leaving 

[B-more Mag]

3 minutes ago, alexf said:

I've done fuck all work today. Need to get off the forum 

 

It's a Friday in August. You're good.