Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[Hanshithispantz]

36 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Perfect summary. As always its all about joining the dots intelligently.

If you want to super turbo IQ connect the dots though then why is Isak randomly telling Howe he wants to leave with 2 massive games left in the season?

 

Find the missing link and nirvana is yours 

[Crayola Kid]

Just now, WinstonFC said:

Not if he sits down with Eddie and is given assurances he can leave next summer. He will then start bangin the goals in cos he will be in the shop window all season.

He thought he has that this year, apparently 

[Conjo]

4 minutes ago, Crayola Kid said:

A lot of comments about Isak underperformed at the end of last season, with a suggestion he was deliberately below par or not trying.

 

So, do we want him forced to stay? Play 25-30 games, score 12?

 

Not sure there is a good outcome for us here, if that's not too miserable a thing to say.

 

 

 

I don't think anyone should be worried about him not giving his all if/when he comes back. He's too smart to reduce his own worth going into the years he should be earning the biggest wages of his career.

[andycap]

I don't know like he seems a different breed this lad. 

I wouldn't put it past the lad to half arse games all season if he is still here, his lack of professionalism and ego knows no bounds. 

[Jackie Broon]

2 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

I don't think anyone should be worried about him not giving his all if/when he comes back. He's too smart to reduce his own worth going into the years he should be earning the biggest wages of his career.

 

His actions over the summer suggest otherwise.

[Chris_R]

8 minutes ago, Crayola Kid said:

A lot of comments about Isak underperformed at the end of last season, with a suggestion he was deliberately below par or not trying.

 

So, do we want him forced to stay? Play 25-30 games, score 12?

 

Not sure there is a good outcome for us here, if that's not too miserable a thing to say.

 

 

 

Depends if the alternative is to play Gordon up top for 25-30 games and he'll score 3.

[St1pe]

If Isak has spoken to Howe about his desire to leave before the end of the season I don’t get why the club have been so hardball in the not-for-sale stance. Should have been more if a club is prepared to meet X he can leave. I’m not saying it would have fixed this issue but it might not have been so bad from a PR perspective for both us and Isak. Not defending him because he’s gone on like a total prick mind. 
 

If anything I just feel massively lucky to have Eddie Howe. 

[Emotic]

Hopefully we get a CEO and a DoF in. The people in charge of managing the club as a business, and how the squad grows and progresses will immediately have to buckle down to the task of handling the business aspect of Isak's future and the best moves to make, with proper consideration of all the factors. I'm not sure who is doing it now, but Eddie should rightly only be in charge of handling the playing staff and maximizing their output.

 

To Isak, the message should be "you stay put as you're under contract. Nothing meets the criteria for you to leave at this moment. The management team will take your future up with you in due course. But it will also depend on you meeting the basic terms of your current contract with us."

 

One step at a time. First priority is to draw a line under this saga ASAP, and this means to slap the "No Sale" sticker on him immediately. Monday afternoon, just to rattle the Scouse.

[High Five o]

8 minutes ago, Crayola Kid said:

Won't be any 150m bids next year if so, either

The question is will there be a 150m bid this year.

[TK-421]

My take on the discussions at the end of the season with Howe, are that Eddie has maybe said we don't want to sell you, but if an acceptable bid (perhaps minimum £150m mentioned) comes in, then the club would consider it, but no guarantees.

So, Isak takes part in new shirt promos, goes to Austria, everything seems fine. 

Then, we go after Ekitike... Liverpool start making moves (contact with his agent/people), low ball offer is rejected, Isak goes on strike, yada yada, the rest is history.

So despite discussions before the season end and Isak perhaps stating a desire to move on, no promises would have been made, and he was relatively happy until Liverpool step in and the 'tapping up' shenanigans start. 

Liverpool basically fucked everything up signing Ekitike out of spite, and then not wanting to pay the asking price for Isak and thinking they can get him cheap once his head is turned.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by TK-421

[Kanj]

4 minutes ago, St1pe said:

If Isak has spoken to Howe about his desire to leave before the end of the season I don’t get why the club have been so hardball in the not-for-sale stance. Should have been more if a club is prepared to meet X he can leave. I’m not saying it would have fixed this issue but it might not have been so bad from a PR perspective for both us and Isak. Not defending him because he’s gone on like a total prick mind. 
 

If anything I just feel massively lucky to have Eddie Howe. 

it sounds like that is exactly what happened. But players without release clauses who don’t hand in a formal transfer request with 3 years to go on their deal can’t simply just say they want to leave and assume they will get their wish their on their terms. 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by Kanj

[The Prophet]

Howe's comments do undetmine the idea that Isak hasn't been for sale this summer.

 

As others have said, why Liverpool bid for Ekitike is puzzling.

[Kanj]

1 minute ago, TK-421 said:

My take on the discussions at the end of the season with Howe, are that Eddie has maybe said we don't want to sell you, but if an acceptable bid (perhaps minimum £150m mentioned) comes in, then the club would consider it, but no guarantees.

So, Isak takes part in new shirt promos, goes to Austria, everything seems fine. 

Then, we ga after Ekitike... Liverpool start making moves (contact with his agent/people), low ball offer is rejected, Isak goes on strike, yada yada, the rest is history.

So despite discussions before the season end and Isak perhaps stating a desire to move on, no promises would have been made, and he was relatively happy until Liverpool step in and the 'tapping up' shenanigans start. 

he should be questioning playing for a club like Liverpool who seemingly have played a part in this mess that has played out the way it has. 

[Conjo]

5 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

His actions over the summer suggest otherwise.

 

Bit different during the transfer window when he is actively trying to get out. Very different situation once he's locked in.

[Mahoneys Tache]

Isak’s redemption arc seems to be starting right here…

[St1pe]

3 minutes ago, Kanj said:

it sounds like that is exactly what happened. But players without release clauses who don’t hand in a formal transfer request with 3 years to go on their deal can’t simply just say they want to leave and assume they will get their wish their on their terms. 

 

 

 

Yeah fair enough 

[Sibierski]

12 minutes ago, Crayola Kid said:

Won't be any 150m bids next year if so, either

 

Bid likely this summer is only going to reach £130m mark. So it's two options:

 

Sell for circa £120m-£130m, panic replace on a striker we're not fully sold on for £60m+

Sell for circa £100m next summer, but have 12 months to decide who we really want as a long term striker as more opportunities become available across the season (managers moving, contract talks breaking down, clubs not doing well) and spend £65m+

 

The loss of £20m-£30m this summer is more than worth it, if it means more confidence on nailing the long term replacement.

[TK-421]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

 

Bid likely this summer is only going to reach £130m mark. So it's two options:

 

Sell for circa £120m-£130m, panic replace on a striker we're not fully sold on for £60m+

Sell for circa £100m next summer, but have 12 months to decide who we really want as a long term striker as more opportunities become available across the season (managers moving, contract talks breaking down, clubs not doing well) and spend £65m+

 

The loss of £20m-£30m this summer is more than worth it, if it means more confidence on nailing the long term replacement.

This, for me. Even if they offered the full £150m this window, no guarantee we'd get anyone in, never mind an Isak 'replacement', and prices would just inflate anyway, so we could end up paying stupid money for average players on deadline day.

[Kid Icarus]

Brilliant from Howe as usual. Whenever he's answering these questions about Isak I just imagine a live Isak-valueometer to the side of him and it's Eddie's job to make sure that nothing he says brings that down.

 

So many things that he's said I don't believe but the genius of Howe in these situations is that we as fans know his true feelings/answers based on what we know about him, previous situations (Fraser), the subtext of what he says and what we've heard elsewhere, but Howe can sit there and say black is white, ensure that everything can still happen, ensure that the media have very little to use, and in the meantime Isak retains his value.

 

He's really a master at this side of the game.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[gbandit]

Will never ever forgive this cunt for the damage he’s caused this football club 

[Kanj]

The case is shut as far as I am concerned. As stupid as this sounds my condition to selling him to Liverpool would include them convincing Ekiteke he’s coming here and one is done to them at 150 and the other is done to us at the same price they bought him for.

 

If they have no interest in that I’d tell Hughes himself no deal, ever. 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by Kanj

[r0cafella]

Just now, gbandit said:

Will never ever forgive this cunt for the damage he’s caused this football club 

Me too, it's a shame we a lacking all of the information mind. For instance would you feel differently if Liverpool offered us what we promised to let him go for? 

[Lish007]

9 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

My take on the discussions at the end of the season with Howe, are that Eddie has maybe said we don't want to sell you, but if an acceptable bid (perhaps minimum £150m mentioned) comes in, then the club would consider it, but no guarantees.

So, Isak takes part in new shirt promos, goes to Austria, everything seems fine. 

Then, we go after Ekitike... Liverpool start making moves (contact with his agent/people), low ball offer is rejected, Isak goes on strike, yada yada, the rest is history.

So despite discussions before the season end and Isak perhaps stating a desire to move on, no promises would have been made, and he was relatively happy until Liverpool step in and the 'tapping up' shenanigans start. 

Liverpool basically fucked everything up signing Ekitike out of spite, and then not wanting to pay the asking price for Isak and thinking they can get him cheap once his head is turned.

 

 

 

I don't think they signed Ekitike out of spite...he's a genuinely talent. For some reason, I think Slot wants both. We thought we did, but now we know he was probably a replacement. Didnt want to come here anyway so doesnt matter.

 

Not sure both do work in the same team though. Both of their preferred positions are the number 9 role. Unless they have fluid LW and 9 interchanging etc etc 

[Chris_R]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Howe's comments do undetmine the idea that Isak hasn't been for sale this summer.

 

As others have said, why Liverpool bid for Ekitike is puzzling.

 

Massive difference between "for sale" and "would begrudgingly be allowed to leave if a suitable bid came in, and only after we'd already signed his and Callum Wilson's replacements"

[Kimbo]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Howe's comments do undetmine the idea that Isak hasn't been for sale this summer.

 

As others have said, why Liverpool bid for Ekitike is puzzling.

The club have said there are conditions that could be met for his sale, so I don’t think our position has really been that he’s 100% not for sale. In hindsight I think we’ve been trying to get a replacement since we bid for Pedro. The club can say they’ve made an honest attempt to make this happen, so far Liverpool can’t.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2025 by Kimbo