FLUMPO235 Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 Imagine a wheel with spokes, no hang on that’s not the right one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 (edited) I'm pretty sure it was just an off the cuff comparison like For what it's worth though, "regular workers" aren't assets that can be bought and sold like a commodity either. It's nuanced, but honestly who cares, it's arguing for the sake of arguing. Edited October 12, 2025 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: You are right that Yasir is not an Exec. But Alexander Isak is very obviously not a Senior Exec like you first mentioned. He’s a regular member of the playing staff. Your original analogy is way off and misleading. You have him inordinate power as an Exec which he didn’t have. He used the power any regular worker has - withdrawing his labor. You’re making an argument to fit your narrative. TCD you know I've got your back on anything bro but please no friendly fire on Bobby D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 7 hours ago, Disco said: What in the name of regens is going on here? One of the reasons why id never own a club is id be signing this lad just for the banter of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 21 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: You are right that Yasir is not an Exec. But Alexander Isak is very obviously not a Senior Exec like you first mentioned. He’s a regular member of the playing staff. Your original analogy is way off and misleading. You have him inordinate power as an Exec which he didn’t have. He used the power any regular worker has - withdrawing his labor. Read his first sentence again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: You are right that Yasir is not an Exec. But Alexander Isak is very obviously not a Senior Exec like you first mentioned. He’s a regular member of the playing staff. Your original analogy is way off and misleading. You have him inordinate power as an Exec which he didn’t have. He used the power any regular worker has - withdrawing his labor. You’re making an argument to fit your narrative. He's one of the highest paid employees whose role is the hardest replace. His refusal to honour his contractual obligations had a potentially large impact in that we could've scored more goals at the start of the season and have more points. The comparison to exec isn't misleading. He was one of the most important and highest paid employees in the company. Edit: thought the framing the narrative comment was aimed at me. Edited October 12, 2025 by Eveready Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: I'm pretty sure it was just an off the cuff comparison like For what it's worth though, "regular workers" aren't assets that can be bought and sold like a commodity either. It's nuanced, but honestly who cares, it's arguing for the sake of arguing. Not to get too political but for me the distinction between a worker and owner/executive management is significant. One has power in authority over the other. The other (the worker) is the one that generates the value. I see work life like this and this is the lens through which I view football. For me player power, is worker power. It’s a fundamental distinction which dictates everything else. An executive has power, an executive has power over employees, executives make the most important decisions. Alexander Isak nor any PL footballer is akin to an Executive. Alexander Isak job is to play football, he has no power over anyone else but himself. The only power he has is to refuse his labour to the business. It’s the tool of the worker against their bosses. Footballers are workers with a Trade Union. Managers have one too. Is there a Union for football executives? If Isak was akin to an executive he would’ve been able to negotiate his contract with the board himself and leave as soon as he wanted minus his notice period/competitor clause. Thats what Eales did. The comparison IS misleading, it distorts the power dynamic. Football clubs do have Executives and they do not include players (except maybe Mbappe at PSG and Messi in Miami). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted October 12, 2025 Share Posted October 12, 2025 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Not to get too political but for me the distinction between a worker and owner/executive management is significant. One has power in authority over the other. The other (the worker) is the one that generates the value. I see work life like this and this is the lens through which I view football. For me player power, is worker power. It’s a fundamental distinction which dictates everything else. An executive has power, an executive has power over employees, executives make the most important decisions. Alexander Isak nor any PL footballer is akin to an Executive. Alexander Isak job is to play football, he has no power over anyone else but himself. The only power he has is to refuse his labour to the business. It’s the tool of the worker against their bosses. Footballers are workers with a Trade Union. Managers have one too. Is there a Union for football executives? If Isak was akin to an executive he would’ve been able to negotiate his contract with the board himself and leave as soon as he wanted minus his notice period/competitor clause. Thats what Eales did. The comparison IS misleading, it distorts the power dynamic. Football clubs do have Executives and they do not include players (except maybe Mbappe at PSG and Messi in Miami). Was simply making an analogy of how I view Isak's integrity in the context of regular jobs. Not some convoluted bullshit on hierarchal structure of companies which is completely meaningless to the conversation. A couple of hours ago you thought Yasir and Jamie Reuben were executives at the clubs and now weirdly still trying to argue for arguements sake. Odd way to wind down on a Sunday evening, but to each their own. I'll leave you to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 8 hours ago, The College Dropout said: . You’re making an argument to fit your narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 When is it we play again ? honestly man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: When is it we play again ? honestly man Saturday 31st January, 2026 15:00. Most likely change though due to sky or tnt so don't book any train tickets etc yet Edited October 13, 2025 by Fak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 10 minutes ago, Fak said: Saturday 31st January, 2026 15:00. Most likely change though due to sky or tnt so don't book any train tickets etc yet Ok ty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 Well them last few pages are tedious. Its pretty simple really, and i'm kind of stating the obvious here. The club didn't cover its self in a whole lot of glory (mainly by appointing Mitchell), we could have done things differently, and sorted the situation with a more positive outcome, and dealt with the issue before it came to a head, but the club made the best out of a bad situation by getting a Premier League record sale, and by signing two quality replacements that should sort us out for the next few years. Isak, who would have been a legend at the club if he left under any other circumstance, acted like he was gods gift to men, like we should be glad he decided to grace us with his presence, and thought that he was bigger that his team and the club, he spat on the fans, spat on his team mates, and set a torch to everything he had done at the club. So the club can learn from the ordeal, there is hopefully an audit happening to see what lessons can be learnt from the whole summer, as it was far from ideal, but frankly, good riddance he's gone, he's a cunt, and its early days, but the tentative signs are that we're going the be better off in the long run for him leaving, and hopefully his lazy contemptuous arrogant attitude continues at Liverpool, where he'll fit in nicely. I'll be cheering every goalless game he has, every miss he has, and every time Salah takes on a shot alone instead of passing to him. Oh, and also he's more of a CEC than a CEO. Chief Executive Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 8 hours ago, Eveready said: Was simply making an analogy of how I view Isak's integrity in the context of regular jobs. Not some convoluted bullshit on hierarchal structure of companies which is completely meaningless to the conversation. A couple of hours ago you thought Yasir and Jamie Reuben were executives at the clubs and now weirdly still trying to argue for arguements sake. Odd way to wind down on a Sunday evening, but to each their own. I'll leave you to it Ah yes because Isak being a Senior Executive at the football club is in the ballpark. But Jamie Reuben being an Executive is a gross misunderstanding of industry power dynamics in this context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Ah yes because Isak being a Senior Executive at the football club is in the ballpark. But Jamie Reuben being an Executive is a gross misunderstanding of industry power dynamics in this context. My guy, he was just making a benign comparison in a flippant manner. Its not that deep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 TCD can recognise a baller when he sees one but clearly he has no idea who is actually in charge. I think thats fair enough, his talent is in recognising how slow players are before he watches them, not who makes sure the electricity bill gets paid at the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 2 hours ago, 54 said: My guy, he was just making a benign comparison in a flippant manner. Its not that deep And I’m just pointing out it wasn’t a good one. Honestly, I do think people view footballers like Senior Executives which contributes to a bit of societal disdain towards them as a class of people. They aren’t viewed as highly skilled workers with highly insecure incomes and a short career, 1/2 of which occurs before full frontal lobe development. So it is that deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: And I’m just pointing out it wasn’t a good one. Honestly, I do think people view footballers like Senior Executives which contributes to a bit of societal disdain towards them as a class of people. They aren’t viewed as highly skilled workers with highly insecure incomes and a short career, 1/2 of which occurs before full frontal lobe development. So it is that deep. And this is how we get to a place where my comments in this thread are more contentious than the posts wishing him death or serious harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 Would imagine that it's because those posts aren't serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 17 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Would imagine that it's because those posts aren't serious Oh it get it now. Isak should die = x player is a baller = Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 First visit in here for months. Need to lock this thread and move on lads. He’s gone. Could’ve probably kept him if the fans had of been smarter in public but wasn’t to be. Let’s move on… at least until we visit Anfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 (edited) 23 minutes ago, LFEE said: First visit in here for months. Need to lock this thread and move on lads. He’s gone. Could’ve probably kept him if the fans had of been smarter in public but wasn’t to be. Let’s move on… at least until we visit Anfield So it’s the fans fault? wtf. Ignoring the fans we’re begging and gasping for him to just go to training and all would have been cool. Where are you hearing this? Edited October 13, 2025 by Kanj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 25 minutes ago, LFEE said: First visit in here for months. Need to lock this thread and move on lads. He’s gone. Could’ve probably kept him if the fans had of been smarter in public but wasn’t to be. Let’s move on… at least until we visit Anfield You're going to have to explain that one for me chief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 26 minutes ago, LFEE said: First visit in here for months. Need to lock this thread and move on lads. He’s gone. Could’ve probably kept him if the fans had of been smarter in public but wasn’t to be. Let’s move on… at least until we visit Anfield Say what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 13, 2025 Share Posted October 13, 2025 If that's not a trollpost I don't know what is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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