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4 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

Whether it ends up happening or not or even works out, it's so typical of Liverpool that in the midst of a crisis where they may need to sack their manager the exact person they would want to replace him may be available.

How close to the sack is Alonso?

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2 minutes ago, gdm said:


I get what you’re saying but the point he is making is the club, team mates and managers made him the player he is. Which is something everyone to a man has said on here about Isak particularly Murphy and Howe. Let’s not be hypocrites 

 

 

 

But it’s not true. Football is a team sport aye. But Only Virgil Van Dijk has an argument of contributing more than Salah to Liverpools golden era.  He’s put in more work produced more value than maybe 2 ppl at that club (Klopp). His contribution and Joe Gomez is not the same. He does deserve special treatment. 
 

Your comment about Isak is for other fans not me.  Sure we’ve provided the platform for Isak to succeed but I still think Isak himself is a wonderfully gifted footballer and the second best striker we’ve ever had. He did that. I think Isak should’ve been compensated 12 months earlier and that would’ve helped us in the summer. Isak too was unprofessional and I’ve lost all love for him.  But I won’t over credit others because he’s gone and is a prick. 
 

 

when Bruno leaves I hope we treat him with more respect.  Shearer aside I don’t think anyone in the media would dare criticise Bruno the way Carragher.  I don’t know why Carragher thinks he can talk so freely about a player that yas brought so much to his club. Like his greatest night for the club didn’t involve shipping 3 goals by half time  

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Absolutely loving the fans, Isak, Salah, Carragher and slot chewing bits from each other and spilling blood all over the parish, it's amazing. Don't particularly have a dog in the fight I just need it to continue and be as brutal and damaging for as long as possible really. The way this fanbase, Slot and Isak behaved towards NUFC in the summer was disgraceful and this is now the karma coming right back to them, I sincerely hope the whole thing turns to utter pigshit and they lose the fucking lot - money, players, managers, respect (stop laughing), future targets - the lot. They're fucking scum

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5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

But it’s not true. Football is a team sport aye. But Only Virgil Van Dijk has an argument of contributing more than Salah to Liverpools golden era.  He’s put in more work produced more value than maybe 2 ppl at that club (Klopp). His contribution and Joe Gomez is not the same. He does deserve special treatment. 
 

Your comment about Isak is for other fans not me.  Sure we’ve provided the platform for Isak to succeed but I still think Isak himself is a wonderfully gifted footballer and the second best striker we’ve ever had. He did that. I think Isak should’ve been compensated 12 months earlier and that would’ve helped us in the summer. Isak too was unprofessional and I’ve lost all love for him.  But I won’t over credit others because he’s gone and is a prick. 
 

 

when Bruno leaves I hope we treat him with more respect.  Shearer aside I don’t think anyone in the media would dare criticise Bruno the way Carragher.  I don’t know why Carragher thinks he can talk so freely about a player that yas brought so much to his club. Like his greatest night for the club didn’t involve shipping 3 goals by half time  


his comments about being a Chelsea failure and Egypt failure were poor but the point I was making is he’s spot on that it’s not all about Salah. I don’t think Bruno would use the media against the club on more than a couple occasions and if he did he should get called out on it. It’s shit selfish behaviour from Salah. He used the media to get the fans to put pressure on the club to get a new contract and he’s done it again because he’s been benched. Again Isak and his agent was doing that very same tactic in the summer 

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All very non-Liverpool behaviour they're exhibiting if you ask me. I will firmly place my tin hat on here but when I think of Liverpool as a club and generally scousers as a people I think of them being gritty, hard-working and united albeit probably a bit devious, mischievous and split by football. I know its just stereotyping but there's usually some (at least small) element of truth to stereotypes.

 

You think of Hillsbrough and the way the stood up to The Sun. They stood up for what they felt was right on both sides and have had two successful clubs albeit one far more than the other.

 

Like them or loathe them you have to somewhat respect Liverpool.

 

Now though, this current lot...they're nothing like that. They berated TAA for having the audacity to say he'd like to try and achieve similar/same to what he had there, somewhere else. Then went on to defend Isak in that all too well-known debacle from the summer, acting like they'd never done owt wrong.

 

They've attempted to be devious and instead have been found to simply be greedy and have opted for large scale change at the club in a time when stability was most likely needed for all those lads. You can throw the money out the window (although I know it helps) because irrespective of how fortunate or rich they are their mate just tragically passed away in the summer and it's someone who they'd likely see as much of as their own families.

 

I'm not making excuses for them, but this is when you need your leaders. Slot appears to be dwindling in the face of adversity and frankly that whole summer was catastrophic for them almost. Whether it be trying to reinvent, reignite or revolutionise it has had pretty much the entirely opposite effect.

 

Toys out the pram for Salah who thinks he is beyond performing to maintain his place. Isak - not performing and seemingly not fit after his toys were thrown out the pram. The other young talented lads with no experience or leaders guiding them on how to act professionally.

 

Ironic really, given that Howe has created the direct opposite (albeit in less tragic circumstances).

 

Liverpool are absolutely void of that spirit that has defined them for almost half a century at present. It'll not last and they'll be back, but whilst Isak remains at the centre of this controversy directly or indirectly, I will watch on with a wry smile thinking - yeah...you've got exactly what you deserved.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Heron said:

All very non-Liverpool behaviour they're exhibiting if you ask me. I will firmly place my tin hat on here but when I think of Liverpool as a club and generally scousers as a people I think of them being gritty, hard-working and united albeit pr9bablt a bit devious, mischievous and split by football. You think of Hillsbrough and the way the stood up to The Sun. They stood up for what they felt was right on both sides and have had two successful clubs albeit one far more than the other.

 

Like them or loathe them you have to somewhat respect Liverpool.

 

Now though, this current lot...they're nothing like that. They berated TAA for having the audacity to say he'd like to try and achieve similar/same to what he had there, somewhere else. Then went on to defend Isak in that all too well-known debacle from the summer, acting like they'd never done owt wrong.

 

They've attempted to be devious and instead have been found to simply be greedy and have opted for large scale change at the club in a time when stability was most likely needed for all those lads. You can throw the money out the window (although I know it helps) necause irrespective of how fortunate or rich they are their mate just tragically passed away in the summer and its someone who they'd likely see as much of as their own families.

 

I'm not making excuses for them, but this is when you need your leaders. Slot appears to be dwindling in the face of adversity and frankly that whole summer was catastrophic for them almost. Whether it be trying to reinvent, reignite or revolutionise it has had pretty much the entirely opposite effect.

 

Toys out the pram for Salah who thinks he is beyond performing to maintain his place. Isak - not performing and seemingly not fit after his toys were thrown out the pram. Young talented lads with no experience guiding them on how to act professionally.

 

Ironic really, given that Howe has created the direct opposite (albeit in less tragic circumstances).

 

Liverpool are absolutely void of that spirit that has defined them for almost half a century at present. It'll not last and they'll be back, but whilst Isak remains at the centre of this controversy directly or indirectly, I will watch on with a wry smile thinking - yeah...you've got exactly what you deserved.

 

Great post. I always found Scousers (both red and blue) to be great people, very similar to Geordies in many aspects. I try to make the distinction between them and eScouser gimps who crawled out the woodwork during the Isak saga

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6 minutes ago, Heron said:

All very non-Liverpool behaviour they're exhibiting if you ask me. I will firmly place my tin hat on here but when I think of Liverpool as a club and generally scousers as a people I think of them being gritty, hard-working and united albeit probably a bit devious, mischievous and split by football. I know its just stereotyping but there's usually some (at least small) element of truth to stereotypes.

 

You think of Hillsbrough and the way the stood up to The Sun. They stood up for what they felt was right on both sides and have had two successful clubs albeit one far more than the other.

 

Like them or loathe them you have to somewhat respect Liverpool.

 

Now though, this current lot...they're nothing like that. They berated TAA for having the audacity to say he'd like to try and achieve similar/same to what he had there, somewhere else. Then went on to defend Isak in that all too well-known debacle from the summer, acting like they'd never done owt wrong.

 

They've attempted to be devious and instead have been found to simply be greedy and have opted for large scale change at the club in a time when stability was most likely needed for all those lads. You can throw the money out the window (although I know it helps) because irrespective of how fortunate or rich they are their mate just tragically passed away in the summer and it's someone who they'd likely see as much of as their own families.

 

I'm not making excuses for them, but this is when you need your leaders. Slot appears to be dwindling in the face of adversity and frankly that whole summer was catastrophic for them almost. Whether it be trying to reinvent, reignite or revolutionise it has had pretty much the entirely opposite effect.

 

Toys out the pram for Salah who thinks he is beyond performing to maintain his place. Isak - not performing and seemingly not fit after his toys were thrown out the pram. The other young talented lads with no experience or leaders guiding them on how to act professionally.

 

Ironic really, given that Howe has created the direct opposite (albeit in less tragic circumstances).

 

Liverpool are absolutely void of that spirit that has defined them for almost half a century at present. It'll not last and they'll be back, but whilst Isak remains at the centre of this controversy directly or indirectly, I will watch on with a wry smile thinking - yeah...you've got exactly what you deserved.

 

 

 

Could almost say they are "Offended by everything,  ashamed by nothing".

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6 minutes ago, gdm said:


his comments about being a Chelsea failure and Egypt failure were poor but the point I was making is he’s spot on that it’s not all about Salah. I don’t think Bruno would use the media against the club on more than a couple occasions and if he did he should get called out on it. It’s shit selfish behaviour from Salah. He used the media to get the fans to put pressure on the club to get a new contract and he’s done it again because he’s been benched. Again Isak and his agent was doing that very same tactic in the summer 

If his point was purely that Salah hasn’t been performing this season and going to the media is unprofessional and makes him look overly arrogant - I would agree. 
 

But instead he’s done what Salah said he would do.  Attacked Salah and Said a bunch of irrelevant things to denigrate one of the greatest players in Liverpool history.  Even the tracking back thing is a lie for the majority of his time at the club.  
 

Shearer and Lineker spoke about it. Both having been in Salah’s shoes and said far more sensible takes. 

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1 minute ago, Moose said:

 

Great post. I always found Scousers (both red and blue) to be great people, very similar to Geordies in many aspects. I try to make the distinction between them and eScouser gimps who crawled out the woodwork during the Isak saga

In my experience I have found Scousers to be quite like Geordies, far more than Mancs for example. I do think though that the NE is inherently different to the NW though - in that - in the NE I feel we're collectively less self-centred and "dog eat dog" and instead more communal and caring/sharing. Can only speak as you find I guess. Perhaps that's just the fact Liverpool and Manchester are such large cities. I think music had played a big part on that too, especially with Manchester.

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3 minutes ago, Heron said:

In my experience I have found Scousers to be quite like Geordies, far more than Mancs for example. I do think though that the NE is inherently different to the NW though - in that - in the NE I feel we're collectively less self-centred and "dog eat dog" and instead more communal and caring/sharing. Can only speak as you find I guess. Perhaps that's just the fact Liverpool and Manchester are such large cities. I think music had played a big part on that too, especially with Manchester.

Not my experience in the least as I have explained at length in the past.

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6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If his point was purely that Salah hasn’t been performing this season and going to the media is unprofessional and makes him look overly arrogant - I would agree. 
 

But instead he’s done what Salah said he would do.  Attacked Salah and Said a bunch of irrelevant things to denigrate one of the greatest players in Liverpool history.  Even the tracking back thing is a lie for the majority of his time at the club.  
 

Shearer and Lineker spoke about it. Both having been in Salah’s shoes and said far more sensible takes. 

I'm not aware of the comments so perhaps a moot point but I think fans or pundits are always likely to say some irrational stuff when they're hurt by shit such as Isak or Salah. Let's face it most people on this site would have considered Isak one of the best 5 strikers in the world 9 months ago. Now most think he's shite. :lol:

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Liverpool is the biggest little village in the world. That's neither a compliment or a dig, just what it is 

 

You are either with them or against them, no middle ground.

 

It also appears charming at first but scratch the surface and it's a place full of strange behaviours.

 

Loved my time as a student there, hated the few years after when I was working.

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2 minutes ago, Heron said:

I'm not aware of the comments so perhaps a moot point but I think fans or pundits are always likely to say some irrational stuff when they're hurt by shit such as Isak or Salah. Let's face it most people on this site would have considered Isak one of the best 5 strikers in the world 9 months ago. Now most think he's shite. :lol:

 

To be fair he was, and he is :coloccini:

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4 minutes ago, Heron said:

Aye, that's fair. Like I say I can only go off my experiences (and likewise you with yours).

FWIW I prefer the North London clubs. Ive never had a bad interaction with them.

 

 

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It's funny because it's Liverpool and Slot but Salah is clearly acting a massive prick. Would he have came out with the same against Klopp? I doubt it. He's took the piss and gambled on his status and reputation amongst Liverpool fans to take his side over an under pressure manager. 

 

To be fair Slot doesn't help himself at all and also handles nearly every media interaction terribly and Carragher came at it from an awful angle too. 

 

Whole thing is just funny as fuck. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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