AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Getting a bit concerned at the fact he never plays more than 60 minutes ever. Surely he should be able to run a bit more by now? That said he's absolutely class and if he can be in condition by the start of next season he'll be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Playing when unfit, IMO - due to necessity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Hope he remains fit until the end of the season and for us to find a way to involve him as much as possible in our attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Big Geordie said: Playing when unfit, IMO - due to necessity. Yup. Was clearly pre arranged with him and Willock tonight. I don’t mind Gordon up top tbh but tonight showed the flaws massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Think just like Botman, he needs surgery. Just not been full speed all season since that groin injury in what October? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Disco said: Yup. Was clearly pre arranged with him and Willock tonight. I don’t mind Gordon up top tbh but tonight showed the flaws massively. There has to be room in 25man squad, for an understudy (youngish) striker. Us only having Isak and Wilson given their injury record is asking for bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: There has to be room in 25man squad, for an understudy (youngish) striker. Us only having Isak and Wilson given their injury record is asking for bother. Totally agree and suspect next season there will be. I’d not be surprised at all if we look to peddle Wilson in the summer, I’d definitely be considering it if Forest fancy it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I've said loads of times I think Wilson was on the way out sooner if he hadn't put together that freakish period of form that got him in the England squad. Meant that we decided to go with other signings instead of a backup striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Cannot actually play with his back to goal. Finds holding the ball up an impossibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Disco said: Totally agree and suspect next season there will be. I’d not be surprised at all if we look to peddle Wilson in the summer, I’d definitely be considering it if Forest fancy it again Wilson should have been sold in the summer. We absolutely must become good sellers to circumvent FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Wilson should have been sold in the summer. We absolutely must become good sellers to circumvent FFP. Do agree but easier said than done though. 90% would’ve been spitting feathers of he’d been peddled in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Disco said: Do agree but easier said than done though. 90% would’ve been spitting feathers of he’d been peddled in the summer. Totally agree. He scored 18 goals for us last season, had we sold him in the summer after scoring that many, there'd have been hell on. Edited February 28 by Scoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Totally agree. He scored 18 goals for us last season, had we sold him in the summer after scoring that many, there'd have been hell on. Don’t discount myself from that btw, not being snide but it’s something as mentioned we need to get with and not treat as an Ashley wind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 minutes ago, Disco said: Do agree but easier said than done though. 90% would’ve been spitting feathers of he’d been peddled in the summer. You’re probably right but so what? You can’t be swayed by fan opinion particularly when it’s so short sighted. We had Hell when we sold Cole, still remember being in tears ( ) but ultimately we had KKs amazing communication skills and someone we believed in; Eddie can pull that off. Your right about the hell though; I did hint it during the summer and it didn’t go down well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 28 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Wilson should have been sold in the summer. We absolutely must become good sellers to circumvent FFP. We need to start cashing in when players are going through good form that we know will drop off. Miggy, Longstaff are two ships that have likely sailed. The world class players are exempt from this thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, TRC said: We need to start cashing in when players are going through good form that we know will drop off. Miggy, Longstaff are two ships that have likely sailed. The world class players are exempt from this thinking. Longstaff is a big different imo, obviously he’s having a rough time but for me he will always be a useful squad player who helps with Homegrown requirements even if I’m not looking at him to start week in and week out. And your right; Miggy fits the Wilson criteria of someone we should have been trying to let go in the summer too. I think given the way footballs going it becomes increasingly difficult to sell players of Miggy profile mind, everyone is basically targeting the same profile (young with potential to improve the sell on value). Club were clearly desperate to flog him in January as well. Ps we should have taken Bayerns money as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: We had Hell when we sold Cole, still remember being in tears ( ) but ultimately we had KKs amazing communication skills and someone we believed in; Eddie can pull that off. Would be an interesting one. That era you got your news through the Ronnie and Look North. Now it’s 24/7 from thousands of bellends. It’d be wild and it’ll be interesting to see it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Getting a bit concerned at the fact he never plays more than 60 minutes ever. Surely he should be able to run a bit more by now? That said he's absolutely class and if he can be in condition by the start of next season he'll be great. We have to be careful with him when Wilson is confirmed to be out for so long. Wouldn't be surprised if Gordon got an injury at some point too with all the minutes he's been forced to play which would leave us with no one. Who would even be the emergency striker if Isak, Wilson, Gordon and Joelinton were all out? Murphy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Getting a bit concerned at the fact he never plays more than 60 minutes ever. Surely he should be able to run a bit more by now? That said he's absolutely class and if he can be in condition by the start of next season he'll be great. He literally just came back from injury three days ago. He probably shouldn't even be playing 60 minutes yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 7 hours ago, Disco said: Totally agree and suspect next season there will be. I’d not be surprised at all if we look to peddle Wilson in the summer, I’d definitely be considering it if Forest fancy it again Think the Scabs will be too busy in a post relegation FFP fire sale to take him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, Scoot said: Totally agree. He scored 18 goals for us last season, had we sold him in the summer after scoring that many, there'd have been hell on. Hindsight 20:20 and all that. We do have to be slightly more aggressive sellers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 hours ago, Joelinton7 said: Cannot actually play with his back to goal. Finds holding the ball up an impossibility. He's not that type of striker. FWIW, neither is Mo Salah. I was watching him up front yesterday when we were in possession and his movement was still good, he was hanging on the shoulders of defenders, looking to get played in, but our football was too shit and it never reached him. Maybe we need a different type of striker, but I still think he's class, and we just need a better supply line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, TRon said: He's not that type of striker. FWIW, neither is Mo Salah. I was watching him up front yesterday when we were in possession and his movement was still good, he was hanging on the shoulders of defenders, looking to get played in, but our football was too shit and it never reached him. Maybe we need a different type of striker, but I still think he's class, and we just need a better supply line. Mo Salah plays on the wing. Any central attacker needs to be able to play with their back to goal. Gordon did it pretty well last night - dropping off and linking up play. Isak doesn't look 100% fit so needs to be managed carefully. One larger point. Eddie's system only seems to work when the press is super intense. Even when fully fit - I don't think Isak has the conditioning for it for 90 minutes at the moment. He needs a fully summer to get his conditioning to the right levels. If he needs surgery - he may not get the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Isak’s world class and an incredible talent but it does frustrate me how often he gets muscled off the ball when players try to pass to him. He’s often in a good position to receive it and then stays static while the defender nips in and takes it. He’s a world away from being a target man and we need to find a way to play him in more where he’s running onto balls or receiving balls in space as it doesn’t really work to pass to him when he has a defender on his back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Glimpses today of the Willock-Isak partnership which will hopefully carry us into the European places by the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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