Dr.Spaceman Posted Monday at 06:36 Share Posted Monday at 06:36 Hang on, so we're not allowed to hate Liverpool any more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Monday at 06:37 Share Posted Monday at 06:37 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Hang on, so we're not allowed to hate Liverpool any more? You can forget that idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Monday at 06:59 Share Posted Monday at 06:59 (edited) So Liverpool are a real club, anyone forgot when the Moores family pumped big money into them in the 80’s and others were struggling. now the Liverpool board are one of the main ones behind psr rules to limit competition…Real club my ass. and a mention to their fans too. They held a victory parade on the anniversary of Heysal…And regularly attack opposition team’s buses as they enter Anfield. Edited Monday at 07:04 by Ronson333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted Monday at 07:03 Share Posted Monday at 07:03 City will spend alot in January n still win the league, none sense to say it's over already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Monday at 08:56 Share Posted Monday at 08:56 1 hour ago, astraguy said: City will spend alot in January n still win the league, none sense to say it's over already Even if they spend and hit the ground running they are relying on Liverpool to lose 4 games just to get ahead of them, plus that assumes City won't drop any more points, which they clearly will so you are probably in a situation where Liverpool can afford to lose 6-7 games and still be fine City are in a top 4 battle, they know the league is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted Monday at 09:23 Share Posted Monday at 09:23 26 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Even if they spend and hit the ground running they are relying on Liverpool to lose 4 games just to get ahead of them, plus that assumes City won't drop any more points, which they clearly will so you are probably in a situation where Liverpool can afford to lose 6-7 games and still be fine City are in a top 4 battle, they know the league is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 09:28 Share Posted Monday at 09:28 2 hours ago, Ronson333 said: So Liverpool are a real club, anyone forgot when the Moores family pumped big money into them in the 80’s and others were struggling. now the Liverpool board are one of the main ones behind psr rules to limit competition…Real club my ass. and a mention to their fans too. They held a victory parade on the anniversary of Heysal…And regularly attack opposition team’s buses as they enter Anfield. Their fans have always been a bunch of entitled twats who think other clubs should join in their Mersey anthem as obeisance to their natural right to win everything. They are the main reason I can't stand them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted Monday at 10:09 Share Posted Monday at 10:09 34 minutes ago, TRon said: Their fans have always been a bunch of entitled twats who think other clubs should join in their Mersey anthem as obeisance to their natural right to win everything. They are the main reason I can't stand them. Aren't Newcastle fans supposed to be 'deluded'? No smoke without a fire, but I don't really get this hatred of other fans when we've only come across a tiny proportion of them and clearly the wrong'uns stick in our minds more (no doubt there's plenty mind, but they're a huge fanbase). Got no arguments with people having an issue with the 'red cartel' and PL here. But the rules still apply to everyone and there are some pretty serious allegations against City when you factor in the number - it's not really fair if teams like Forest and Everton get punished and they don't. And ultimately we are quite clearly held back by these rules too, so naturally if Man City get let off I really hope that is on the basis of innocence rather than just having a really good lawyer or the like. Whether many of these rules should exist is of course a good question worth discussing, but still a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted Monday at 10:10 Share Posted Monday at 10:10 Hated Liverpool since the early eighties... BBC then and SKY now treat them differently and ram them down your throats as this shrine of holiness and don't get me started on 'those special Anfield nights' and that shit poster in the tunnel! I'd never minded Arsenal but the Spanish Big Sam gets right on my tits as does their online fan base although most clubs have that these days, so that leaves Chelsea, Man City & Man Utd not a great choice but City are the least offensive (to me) out of that list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 10:19 Share Posted Monday at 10:19 6 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: Aren't Newcastle fans supposed to be 'deluded'? No smoke without a fire, but I don't really get this hatred of other fans when we've only come across a tiny proportion of them and clearly the wrong'uns stick in our minds more (no doubt there's plenty mind, but they're a huge fanbase). Got no arguments with people having an issue with the 'red cartel' and PL here. But the rules still apply to everyone and there are some pretty serious allegations against City when you factor in the number - it's not really fair if teams like Forest and Everton get punished and they don't. And ultimately we are quite clearly held back by these rules too, so naturally if Man City get let off I really hope that is on the basis of innocence rather than just having a really good lawyer or the like. Whether many of these rules should exist is of course a good question worth discussing, but still a different matter. What have we got to be deluded about? I'm not even sure why we have got this reputation. Based on what? Not even sure why others even care about us enough to call us that considering we've done nothing in half a century. As for rules I am not even going there. Why would I care about City breaking rules when we've seen them invented specifically to stop us challenging the cartel? I hope the PL get shafted tbh, the whole thing is a stitch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted Monday at 11:05 Share Posted Monday at 11:05 35 minutes ago, TRon said: What have we got to be deluded about? I'm not even sure why we have got this reputation. Based on what? Not even sure why others even care about us enough to call us that considering we've done nothing in half a century. As for rules I am not even going there. Why would I care about City breaking rules when we've seen them invented specifically to stop us challenging the cartel? I hope the PL get shafted tbh, the whole thing is a stitch up. Well exactly; it's a reputation that is based on a very limited sample. My point is we can make our judgments on other sets of fans, but given we are in a far better position to comment, clearly our reputation is not accurate. Therefore I'm sure (to some extent at least) it works both ways. Also from my (very limited) experience, I haven't got that view of Liverpool fans tbh. I don't think we're in a position now to say this is a 'stitch up'. FFP rules have been in place way before the cartel voted in PSR and these charges date back to 2009. The charges allege multiple and consistent breaches over a long time in various ways - PSR only seems to be mentioned explicitly in 7 of them. And I think we should all care because the rules have had a major impact on everyone, with only smaller clubs harmed so far, so why should it be fair they get punished while the most successful team gets away with it? Not like they still haven't been able to spend crazy money legally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Monday at 11:32 Share Posted Monday at 11:32 Tbh, although every club has its stereotypical fan traights, the main concern for me now is that we're actually all becoming a cross-club monoculture of entitled customers with a bit of tribalism thrown in to seperate us from each other. Not saying it's the fans' fault either - if we're all treated like expendable customers rather than valued supporters, you can't really be surprised when a lot of people go on like 'I want to talk to the manager' types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Monday at 17:55 Share Posted Monday at 17:55 6 hours ago, St. Maximin said: Well exactly; it's a reputation that is based on a very limited sample. My point is we can make our judgments on other sets of fans, but given we are in a far better position to comment, clearly our reputation is not accurate. Therefore I'm sure (to some extent at least) it works both ways. Also from my (very limited) experience, I haven't got that view of Liverpool fans tbh. I don't think we're in a position now to say this is a 'stitch up'. FFP rules have been in place way before the cartel voted in PSR and these charges date back to 2009. The charges allege multiple and consistent breaches over a long time in various ways - PSR only seems to be mentioned explicitly in 7 of them. And I think we should all care because the rules have had a major impact on everyone, with only smaller clubs harmed so far, so why should it be fair they get punished while the most successful team gets away with it? Not like they still haven't been able to spend crazy money legally. FFP was in place before the cartel voted in PSR rules, but those rules were brought in specifically to stop us. That's pretty much common knowledge, even neutral journalists have said ourselves and Villa have been stitched up by them. Whatever respect I had for the PL authorities died after that, I see them as rubber stamps for the cartel now and that's about it. So anything which disappoints and dismays the cartel is ok with me. If that's City breaking their hearts then more power to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted Monday at 20:09 Share Posted Monday at 20:09 1 hour ago, TRon said: FFP was in place before the cartel voted in PSR rules, but those rules were brought in specifically to stop us. That's pretty much common knowledge, even neutral journalists have said ourselves and Villa have been stitched up by them. Whatever respect I had for the PL authorities died after that, I see them as rubber stamps for the cartel now and that's about it. So anything which disappoints and dismays the cartel is ok with me. If that's City breaking their hearts then more power to them. PSR was way before we were taken over - was introduced in 2013/14 - so I don’t think you can say they were brought in specifically to stop us. City’s separate case about associates party rules is different and I am not disagreeing on our relevance there. Ultimately if City get away with this, then it’s a slap in the face to everyone else (not just the likes of Everton and Forest), who have had to make major sacrifices out of fear of punishment, while the team that gets all the success gets away with it. I don’t think that’s remotely fair, whatever we might think about the PL and red cartel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Yamal is different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I do like Amazon's football coverage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Proper full blown UHD football is lush like, just a shame it's Ipswich V Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Also, yearly reminder that we could have this quality & quantity of coverage every single week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Proper full blown UHD football is lush like, just a shame it's Ipswich V Palace The gay-haters derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Also, yearly reminder that we could have this quality & quantity of coverage every single week They are on about scrapping the 3pm blackout in the 29-30 season. Also, this is Amazon’s last season of showing football I believe. Edited 9 hours ago by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Leicester beating West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Leicester beating West Ham already, criminal we lost to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Gonna be a sad day when Vardy retires, love watching him play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Pass the ball through the defensive line to a striker who tucks it away For our lot in their current malaise that type of move would appear to be more complicated than astrophysics Edited 9 hours ago by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Stifler said: They are on about scrapping the 3pm blackout in the 29-30 season. Also, this is Amazon’s last season of showing football I believe. I'll believe it when I see it. We need an Amazon style app showing all the games. Sure they had a red zone type show a few years ago. Also, Jim Rosenthal If he was 10 years younger he'd be ideal to replace Lineker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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