The Bonk Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Somone hit @Mike’s work with a DDoS attack while he’s logged out. I wanna see his root cause analysis be “Man U wins, I see red”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. There's not just that, you just aren't getting the teams who are some of the best in Europe but who struggle due to the stupid coefficient stuff as well who drop down into it to make it stronger. Edited April 17 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. Yes definitely a better the devil you know type thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What a strange take. Not at all. Bayern are owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, the world’s largest sportswear manufacture, and one of Germany’s and the world’s largest banks. Leverkusen are owned by one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Wolfsburg owned by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world. Stuttgart owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, and one of the largest luxury car manufacturers. Sick of the myth that surrounds German football. They have all benefitted by being able to be owned by these companies and having their money trickle down to them to sustain them. Edited April 17 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Mike said: Bodø/Glimt in the final. Knutsen taking home the EL trophy. Not all bad. You weirdos talking like Spurs isn’t the shittest team B/L will have faced in their current EL season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. When we were in the UEFA semis under that format we were with Valencia, Villareal, Marseilles (bt Liverpool) Quarters: Celtic (bt Barcelona), Bordeaux, PSV and Inter Seen stronger intertoto cups than this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: There's not just that, you just aren't getting the teams who are some of the best in Europe but who struggle due to the stupid coefficient stuff as well who drop down. I'm trying to work out what you mean here but I don't get it - are you not just saying the same as me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 So glad I didn't watch the game - seems like the ref pulled all the stops to get them through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. What do you suggest? The teams who currently finish 25th to 36th all drop into the Europa League instead of going home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Stifler said: What do you suggest? The teams who currently finish 25th to 36th all drop into the Europa League instead of going home? Teams who lose the playoffs for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Not at all. Bayern are owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world. The worlds largest sportswear manufacture, and one of Germany’s and the worlds largest banks. Leverkusen are owned by one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Wolfsburg owned by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world. Stuttgart owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, and one of the largest luxury car manufacturers. Sick of the myth that surrounds German football. They have all benefitted by being able to be owned by these companies and having their money trickle down to them to sustain them. What myth? Surely the more fun involvement in football, the better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Stifler said: What do you suggest? The teams who currently finish 25th to 36th all drop into the Europa League instead of going home? Don't think it would make any difference, as those are mostly the teams who would have finished bottom in the old group format. You'd always get 3-4 good sides at least drop in from finishing 3rd, now they play the play-off round in the CL instead and then go home. Like said above, better the devil you know for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Man Utd amazingly haven't lost in Europe all season still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Kaizero said: You weirdos talking like Spurs isn’t the shittest team B/L will have faced in their current EL season Spurs might be shit but they'll get to the final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, Fak said: Apparently @RUHRLYASLEEVESUP is the same. DYKWIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: When we were in the UEFA semis under that format we were with Valencia, Villareal, Marseilles (bt Liverpool) Quarters: Celtic (bt Barcelona), Bordeaux, PSV and Inter Seen stronger intertoto cups than this You also had teams who would fall into it early on through fucking up qualifying as well, that doesn't happen anymore as the big leagues are straight in to the groups regardless. CL is bloated and Waffa Cup has been diluted beyond repair I think these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 They slash away fans arses in Bodo as well don’t they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: Man Utd amazingly haven't lost in Europe all season still. The 12th man always helps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Stifler said: Not at all. Bayern are owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, the world’s largest sportswear manufacture, and one of Germany’s and the world’s largest banks. Leverkusen are owned by one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Wolfsburg owned by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world. Stuttgart owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, and one of the largest luxury car manufacturers. Sick of the myth that surrounds German football. They have all benefitted by being able to be owned by these companies and having their money trickle down to them to sustain them. Mate, we are owned by Saudi Arabia. Edited April 17 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What myth? Surely the more fun involvement in football, the better? I’m making a point about how the Germans make out as if their league and teams are free from ownership of global companies, and how they are ‘fan owned’. The reality is they aren’t, they are arguably the most capitalistic clubs in the world, and they wouldn’t be anywhere near as big as they are without such companies owning them, and their fanbases wouldn’t be anywhere near as big without those companies subsidising their ticket prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, Pata said: Mate, we are owned by Saudi-Arabia. And? We admit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Always thought CL teams dropping into the Europa was a load of bollocks but I've changed my mind, they need to change it back. This tournament is going to become dominated by underperforming but overpowered PL teams winning it just to get the CL cash. One of the biggest losers of the change will be sevilla. I'm sure half of their Europa wins was from them being relegated to europa from the UCL and going on the win it. However the current system does help "poorer" leagues more I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Stifler said: Not at all. Bayern are owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, the world’s largest sportswear manufacture, and one of Germany’s and the world’s largest banks. Leverkusen are owned by one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Wolfsburg owned by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world. Stuttgart owned by a division of one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, and one of the largest luxury car manufacturers. Sick of the myth that surrounds German football. They have all benefitted by being able to be owned by these companies and having their money trickle down to them to sustain them. Being owned by big companies or individuals means nothing if they don't invest in them. Plenty of examples of this. Might want to ask Valencia fans what they think of Peter Lim etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Stifler said: I’m making a point about how the Germans make out as if their league and teams are free from ownership of global companies, and how they are ‘fan owned’. The reality is they aren’t, they are arguably the most capitalistic clubs in the world, and they wouldn’t be anywhere near as big as they are without such companies owning them, and their fanbases wouldn’t be anywhere near as big without those companies subsidising their ticket prices. I'm not sure they do tbh. Even so their clubs are ultimately fan owned, which leads to more favorable fan treatment. I'm not sure how you frame that as a bad thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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