midds Posted Tuesday at 10:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:48 They've been dogshit for about 16 months now as last season's points tally was gained mostly in the first 13 games of their season then they hit a wall. Not quite sure how he's still in a job really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 10:49 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:49 (edited) Surely he’s on the grill at the end of the season? Edited Tuesday at 10:49 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted Tuesday at 10:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Tuesday at 11:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:00 25 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I haven’t been watching spurs much but the squad doesn’t seem ‘that’ far off on paper, if a better approach could be applied and a few weaknesses shored up. Guess you could say that about most average sides, but it’s true. Sometimes when I see the lineup on paper I literally can’t imagine how it functions on the pitch. But I’m no manager obviously. The squad is what you’d expect for a team in transition - couple of experienced but aging players (probably not enough tbf), some younger players trying to cohere, some very young players looking to develop. The problem is that the way they’re being asked to play is just not sustainable in the Premier League. It might - might - be justifiable as part of a process of instilling a different mentality in players but as an effective strategy long-term it‘s clearly not going to work. It‘s criminally easy to exploit and the margins for success are so tight that the slightest spanner in the works makes it all come crashing down. The injuries may or may not be a direct consequence, but they have rendered the whole exercise nearly meaningless. I can barely watch us right now, as someone who played for decades in defence. There’s so much quality in the side, but they’re being asked to do stupid things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Tuesday at 11:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:02 12 minutes ago, midds said: They've been dogshit for about 16 months now as last season's points tally was gained mostly in the first 13 games of their season then they hit a wall. Not quite sure how he's still in a job really I think first because the ludicrous injury list allowed some benefit of doubt, and second because we’re still in Europe. Don’t forget we were also in the semis of the League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 12:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:11 Tonight’s game is the most I’ve anticipated a game that doesn’t involve Newcastle for ages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Tuesday at 12:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:13 Just now, gbandit said: Tonight’s game is the most I’ve anticipated a game that doesn’t involve Newcastle for ages Since that Liverpool vs Villa game the season we came 4th. Villa getting a point meant we only needed one at home to Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Tuesday at 12:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:17 1 hour ago, leffe186 said: I think first because the ludicrous injury list allowed some benefit of doubt, and second because we’re still in Europe. Don’t forget we were also in the semis of the League Cup. You obviously watch far more of Spurs than we do so I'm not going to argue It just feels like it's the manner of the defeats as much as the number of them, Postecoglu seems ridiculously coupled to this 'it's just who we are mate' cliche that he, and the club, have become over the last season and a half. Refusing to change it and losing games hand over fist in the process has made him into a bit of a joke figure, very one dimensional and it's been sussed by a lot of the better teams in the league. Now and again the approach works and it looks amazing but it looks naïve (at best) more often than not (from what I've seen). I also think he's a bit too emotional and moody - to the point of being downright obnoxious in some interviews. Ultimately he's responsible for results and performances and they've been very poor for a sustained time now. Not even sure winning the EL saves him when his bread and butter is so manky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Tuesday at 14:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:29 2 hours ago, midds said: You obviously watch far more of Spurs than we do so I'm not going to argue It just feels like it's the manner of the defeats as much as the number of them, Postecoglu seems ridiculously coupled to this 'it's just who we are mate' cliche that he, and the club, have become over the last season and a half. Refusing to change it and losing games hand over fist in the process has made him into a bit of a joke figure, very one dimensional and it's been sussed by a lot of the better teams in the league. Now and again the approach works and it looks amazing but it looks naïve (at best) more often than not (from what I've seen). I also think he's a bit too emotional and moody - to the point of being downright obnoxious in some interviews. Ultimately he's responsible for results and performances and they've been very poor for a sustained time now. Not even sure winning the EL saves him when his bread and butter is so manky Don’t get me wrong, I think the vast majority of fans expect him to go even if he wins the Europa. Your question was how he’s still in a job though, and I think the reasons I gave are why. There’s still a chance we win the Europa - just look at how well we played in both legs against Frankfurt - and I don’t think ditching Ange at this point would help that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Tuesday at 14:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:37 3 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Don’t get me wrong, I think the vast majority of fans expect him to go even if he wins the Europa. Your question was how he’s still in a job though, and I think the reasons I gave are why. There’s still a chance we win the Europa - just look at how well we played in both legs against Frankfurt - and I don’t think ditching Ange at this point would help that. I'm just surprised at a) the patience Levy has shown in him and b) how little frustration/anger there seems to be with the fans who've watched this for months. Mentioned it last night, there barely seemed more than a murmur of discontent during the game, even at 0-2 down early doors. I could easily be just expecting them to do what loads of other clubs do and bin the manager sharpish. A chairman, especially Levy, not acting quickly seems like a bit of a shock these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Tuesday at 16:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:59 6 hours ago, midds said: They don't get battered and they don't win narrowly (10 of the 11 wins by 2+ goals). If you're a good manager you have to be looking at that and thinking there's potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted Tuesday at 17:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:44 So what result is best for us from the City v Villa game tonight, a draw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted Tuesday at 17:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:46 (edited) 6 hours ago, leffe186 said: I think first because the ludicrous injury list allowed some benefit of doubt, and second because we’re still in Europe. Don’t forget we were also in the semis of the League Cup. Can i point out last season, with our injury list, which i would argue was worse as we didn't have the squad to fall back like you have. We got to the quarter final of the League Cup, were in the Champions League and still managed to finish 7th in the Premier League. For you to be 16th, and to have lost 18 league games so far is completely unacceptable, and even with the injuries and extra games it's still not enough to justify the complete collapse of league form. And, i might add, i didn't hear Howe complain about our injuries, yet Ange kept saying yours were a direct reason for losing, and once those players returned you would win, and yet.... Edited Tuesday at 17:53 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Tuesday at 17:47 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:47 Not a massive fan of that Man City side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Tuesday at 17:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBG Posted Tuesday at 17:54 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:54 3 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: "Brits haven't made the squad", would you expect any different under this Labour government? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted Tuesday at 17:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:55 I thought Nunes was shit at RB, they got no one else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Tuesday at 17:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:58 2 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: I thought Nunes was shit at RB, they got no one else? If I’m Villa it’s rinse and repeat again down that channel between RB and RCB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted Tuesday at 18:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:01 (edited) Pep playing for a draw. Emery playing for a win. Edited Tuesday at 18:01 by AngelofTheFourth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted Tuesday at 18:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:02 Be amazed if City get owt from this tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Tuesday at 18:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:04 Watkins must be annoyed like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Tuesday at 18:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:04 That Man City team looks shit. Putting money on Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 18:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:06 12 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: I’m sure @brummie could put me right. But I have no fucking idea what their best team is?! As to me, that arguably looks stronger than the team that mollywhopped us on Saturday. I can’t wait until we have 17-18 starting quality players and not 14 at a push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Tuesday at 18:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:06 Villa have done a brilliant job beefing the squad up. Yes it costs, but they can rotate 5/6 players every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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